Birth of the Aryan Thrust?
The gay Nazi thing goes back to at least the late '70’s. I recall an article in the now defunt * New Times * magazine describing a gay Nazi party headquartered (IIRC) in Texas.
A gay acquaintance of mine of about that same time used to make tasteless but funny jokes about blacks and Jews and sometimes made casual remarks about “Uncle Adolph.” I mistakenly assumed that this was just some kind of ironic or dark humor. It wasn’t until we happened to get into a long, involved conversation one afternoon that I realized the guy was quite serious about Nazi ideology and had studied it extensively. I tried pointing out several times that being gay in Nazi Germany meant a one-way ticket to the death camps, but he seemed to just shrug it off. I lost contact with him not long after that. because, frankly, his company had become very uncomfortable for me in large part because of that conversation.
Well, they do have a song on their newest CD entitled “Anti-Semitism” and from what little Slovenian I know, it’s against Anti-Semitism. I know this guy spoke more Slovenian than I did.
I will also grant you that they have another song about how the awful barbarians will come from the East and rape, pillage and enslave the Western world. Of course, the last line of the song is the one that turns it on its head:
So the song is actually about the problems with Western (specifically American) imperialism/foreign policy meddling.
Surely they can’t be that stupid.
Perhaps they’re just revisionists who pick and choose their slogans, kind of like comic book characters who stop reading certain series in order to not have their view of Spider-Man corrupted by him really being a clone…
I go to a lot of metal shows, quite a few of which contain bands from Germany, and I have yet to see this.
What’s known as the ‘Nazi’ salute was once a very common way to salute people. People in the US, before they cover their hearts, used to say the Pledge of Allegiance with the same salute.
another cool thing ruined by Nazis.
Dude… they’re white nationalists! Of course they can be that stupid! It’s a fuckin’ requirement!
I don’t get why any gay person would want to join a Nazi organisation. Don’t they know that if they lived in Nazi Germany they would have gone to the gas chamber, been used for medical experiments, or as slave labour? Maybe it’s a form of self-hatred or something, but I don’t understand it.
But then, what do I know anyway, not being gay?
Umm, for the terminally blonde(s) reading the thread who did give it the old college try, could someone translate
for me? I keep coming up with different answers, but what I’m getting keeps making me think of Pablo Francisco’s bit about why its good to have a Mexican girlfriend.
I never saw anyone do the seig heil back in the day when I saw Erasure in concert, nor a few years ago when Depeche Mode was in town. I’ll have to ask my pal who goes to more concerts than I do if she sees it. (What, you’re suprised no one did it when I was at the Sarah Brightman concert?)
Now, now, there’s no reason you can’t have both. I think Rammstein puts together a better CD than KMFDM ever did, though KMFDM often had better singles.
“Y una chica pequena tambien!” = “¡Y una chica pequeña también!” = “And a small girl too!”
Hm. That wasn’t meant to be snippy by any means, apologies if it came across like that. I do have to admit that I’m really not impressed with KMFDM (who also played recently IIRC, but I skipped it - hot damn though, finally Wax Trax! industrial is making a comeback!).
Here’s Laibach on Rammstein:
I never got into Rammstein myself - kind of like why listen to White Zombie when there’s a perfectly good Ministry around?
I’m taking notes, being an old Kraftwerk, Can, and Amon Düül I and II listener. I’m concerned abou Rammstein’s lyrics being mostly about sex. The lyrics being ABOUT something and not created by a computer programmed to assemble lyrics from random words seems like it might detract from the music.