What's up with South Africa these days?

This afternoon I was listening to my local left-of-center community radio station (88.5 WMNF – "Not a member of the Big Brother Broadcasting Network!), and Indian author Arundhati Roy was giving a speech, mainly excoriating America’s role in the Iraq War and its aftermath, but she covered a wide range of ground.

At one point, she was talking about how the powers-that-be have long since figured out how to subvert and control any emerging “democracy,” and she cited South Africa as an example: Since the post-Apartheid government was established in 1994, it jumped on the global-economy bandwagon, privatizing things that were public under the old regime, with the result that 10 million people, almost a quarter of the total population, have lost their electric power and water service; disparities between the haves and have-nots have grown even wider; and the old white elite has not been at all disturbed in its possession of the country’s productive property.

So says Arundhati Roy. Now, I realize she’s arguing from a distinct ideological viewpoint and I should hesitate to accept her words without checking them against reports from more mainstream media sources. The problem is that such sources tell me almost nothing, good or bad, about South Africa. Since Apartheid was abolished, South Africa seems to have dropped off the radar screen. I’ve heard news stories about the reports of the Truth & Reconciliation Commission, the AIDS epidemic, the occasional soccer riot, and not much else.

In the late '80s I was occasionally involved in anti-Apartheid demonstrations, and did some reading up on South African history. I was all for Mandela and the ANC, but I remember thinking at the time: If the ANC leaders come to power, that will be a distinct improvement over Apartheid, but they will probably fall flat on their faces. They will prove to be corrupt or incompetent or both. Why? Because they are political activists who have spent their entire public lives to date fighting the government, and they have never had a chance to participate in government, not even as a party in opposition. They have no experience running a government, and they have never been exposed to the temptations of power. But, so what? After a few years, they will learn, well enough to deliver the goods, or the voters will turn them out. That’s the way democracy works. And if South Africa can put its strange, pseudocolonial political system behind it, it might become the nucleus for the development and modernization of Africa! Even under Apartheid, it was the most advanced and richest country on the continent.

Right-wingers at the time made much more dire predictions. I remember Jesse Helms loudly proclaiming on the floor of the Senate that the end of Apartheid would lead to minority rule in South Africa, in the form of communist – sorry, commernist – rule.

Well, obviously, those fears were unfounded. But I still don’t know whether my own expectations have been fulfilled or not. I’ve checked out some websites on South Africa but they have very little to say about the current state of affairs there. I know the bantustans were abolished and merged into the new provincial governments, all of which are controlled by the ANC except for West Cape, which is ruled by the Nationalist Party, and KwaZulu-Natal, which is ruled by the Inkatha Freedom Party; while the ANC still controls an absolute majority of the national parliament. I know that when Mandela’s term ended he stepped down and national elections were duly held, so SA is now on its second post-Apartheid president, Mbeki – that’s a milestone for any new democracy. But that’s all I know.

Here’s the question: ARE the non-white peoples of South Africa better off for having gotten rid of Apartheid? Obviously they’re better off in some ways – they no longer have to be terrified of their own government. But besides that, what? Has the general standard of living gone up or down? The GDP? The literacy rate? The distribution of wealth?

Here’s the question: ARE the non-white peoples of South Africa better off for having gotten rid of Apartheid? Obviously they’re better off in some ways – they no longer have to be terrified of their own government. But besides that, what? Has the general standard of living gone up or down? The GDP? The literacy rate? The distribution of wealth?

Check out We Are the Poors by Ashwin Desai, a book about resistance to neoliberal globalization in South Africa. Actually, lots of South Africans do still have to be terrified of their own government, but now on account of their poverty rather than their race. Racism is less of a problem for most South Africans than it was ten years ago—and I don’t mean to undervalue the benefits of legal racial equality and the cessation of armed rebellion—but material prosperity, and sometimes even basic subsistence, is more of a problem, and economic disparity is even greater. The government has stringent international financial obligations and development ambitions, and it’s making ends meet (or not) by leaning on the poor.

Is this a consequence of ending apartheid? IMHO, no; I think that the recent trends of globalized capital and consequent “race-to-the-bottom” pressures would have impacted an apartheid South Africa just as much, and that a ruling National Party would have been at least as hard on the people as the ANC is being—with the addition of continued institutionalized racism. If apartheid hadn’t ended, most poor people in South Africa would be even worse off today than they are now.

Why aren’t you hearing about this stuff in the news? I don’t know.

I was born there, and I was back there in 2000. My parents go back every year. South Africa is a weird place. Here are my impressions, of course IMHO as I am no expert.

First, I think that the country is “psychically” better after apartheid, especially given the mostly peaceful transition that Mandela guided them through. There is a new pride with living in South Africa that comes with that, both for whites and blacks.

Several things happened with transition. I think that they went about it in mostly the right way for the short term – they prevented nationalization, they promoted stability, they didn’t redistribute wealth. This kept foreign investment around, as well preventing profitable local businesses from destruction. It also prevented at least some of the flight of rich whites out of the country.

The inevitable side-effect of doing away with the horrible system of apartheid is that South Africa became a much better looking place to every impoverished person in Southern Africa. So people have flooded across the border, building up huge shantytowns around the big cities.

This, as well as the manifold other problems associated with trying to provide social services to a huge new group of people, as well as the fact that the economy could not expand to employ so much unskilled labor and a thousand other factors led to the single most obvious problem in modern South Africa: crime. Johannesberg is terrible – carjackings, murders, home invasion, violent crime, etc. etc. are totally out of control.

Add to this a ballooning AIDS epidemic, which the government has absolutely no way of addressing. Also add to it significant instability in the region, namely in Zimbabwe and the SA-allied Mugabe government. The country faces a long hard road, and I forsee absolutely no way in which the country will get better any time soon.

SA is one of the most beautiful places I have ever seen. Cape Town (and the Garden Route to my hometown, Port Elizabeth) is filled with totally stunning scenery. The infrastructure and business ethos and so forth remain. One can go there and drink the water from the taps. One can go on some of the most exclusive vacations in the world there – the Blue Train and private game parks. Most of the country is free of malaria.

I can’t see it lasting for very long. The situation only gets worse as the economy continues to crumble. This article states that blacks are actually poorer now than before apartheid, which is absolutely stunning to me. The work force gets sicker from >1/3 HIV carriage rates. The out of control crime scares away skilled labor and foreign investment. I hope what is happening in Zimbabwe never happens to SA, but I think it is quite a strong possibility.

Hmmm… yes… it has to be said that J-Burg is indeed one of the world’s scariest places.

I’m a born and bred Aussie and I live in a beautiful quiet place on the waterfront in the town where I was born. My life is quiet and peaceful and prosperous. But my brother is a pretty highly regarded mining engineer who works for BHP. Over the last decade, he’s been sent to South Africa on oh, about 4 occasions to help setup manufacturing plants and things.

When BHP asked him to return on the last occasion, he told BHP “No way… absolutely no way am I ever going back to South Africa ever again. You can fire me. I don’t care. That place is the most violent place on earth and I literally kissed the tarmac when I got home after my last tenure there…”

So BHP offered my brother the following deal… they offered to pay his mortgage outright. That’s right - no more money owing on the house. Then, they offered him a 6 month annual salary bonus - up front. Then, on top of that, they offered him double wages for the time he was away.

In the end, it was too much of a good deal to turn down. So my brother went, and came home a changed man. He tells me that the rate of crime in J-Burg is such now that he was terrified the whole time - from beginning to end - a period of 3 and a half months. He tells me that workers at his manufacturing plant were murdered for nothing more than just driving down to the local shops to pick up some lunch on a weekday. That sort of thing…

As a result, there’s a huge list of South Africans wishing to emigrate to Australia.

Seeing I live here I’ll try to answer the questions posed. Granted this is from my own personal experience, I’m not going to be citing any hard numbers here.

ARE the non-white peoples of South Africa better off for having gotten rid of Apartheid?
Absolutely. Despite not having to face institutionalised racism anymore, more doors are open to non-whites than ever before especially in education, something I feel is the most crucial area. At my university for instance non-whites now make up at least 50% of all students and that number increases every year.

edwino claims the economy is crumbling but I have to disagree. The Rand is doing great against the dollar at the moment, recovering it’s value from the drop a few years ago. While economic growth might not be the highest in the world the economy is definitely growing. Tourism is growing at leaps and bounds (we had a +11% growth of number of tourists over last year, the only country in the world to have an increase in what has been a flat tourist market) with a massive new hotel/conference center being built in Cape Town. Other areas (exports, manufacturing, services) are also growing as well. There is plenty of money to be made in South Africa.

Has the general standard of living gone up or down?
It has stayed pretty much the same. The majority of the poor are still poor, and will probably remain poor for the time being. However for the growing number of non-whites who now have access to decent education and can therefore command higher paying jobs and better employment their standard of living will increase, as will that of their children and their children etc etc etc. Hopefully it will snowball into a viable “Black middle class”. Already there are a few black families who have moved into my neighbourhood.

As for the question of crime I think people need to remember the following.The crime always existed. Except in the Apartheid days, the police’s almost sole purpose was to keep the crime localised in the black areas and out of white areas. The crime that happened in the black areas was hardly ever reported to police and if it was usually hardly investigated fully. Now that we have a free press the media can report on crime without fear of the government phoning up the editor to give him a tongue lashing as the Aprtheid government was want to do. With the new government and the ‘redeployment’ of the police force as an actual police force (and not the enforcers of apartheid), some crime has shifted to areas where it wasn’t usually found (previously white only areas) before. However crime is still much much higher in the poorer areas (previously black only) than in the richer (white only) areas.

There really is no simple answer to this question - without doubt, there are enourmous problems in the country, with crime, poverty and AIDS leading the way. And yet there is cause for optimisim as well:

More and more of the top buisinesses are owned by African shareholders - although there is a mountain yet to climb.

The South African Rand was the has been the best performing currancy in the world against the US$ over the last year - although that trend may well be peaking for the moment.
There have been improvements in the standards of living of many of the countries poorest:

From this PDF Document - but there is always more to be done in this area…

In summary - it is just 12 years since Mandela was released and only 8 since the first truly democratic elections, not enough time to redress the injustices of more than 350 years of minority rule. And yet, there is hope - things have not degenerated into civil war as many predicted, and the economy is stable and growing. While some of the signs are truly frightening (Mbeki’s refusal to acknowledge and address the AIDS pandemic for one, and the ANCs umbrage at being criticised by anyone for another) I have hope that it will continue to improve…

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Another SA here - and I’d have to say no. While things are not out and out worse (though some things are), they certainly are not better. All that’s effectively changed is instead of being able to blame whites for all their problems, they now don’t really blame anyone, much like the whites they just accept everything as just “being”. If there was an award for apathy, I think South Africans would have it hands down. Economically the government has completely fucked the country by making it so dependent on overseas investment and tourism - where we could’ve been relatively self-sustaining (as things were/had to be in apartheid era) we are now completely at the mercy of stock markets, currencies… the usual bs.

One notable difference from SA of old is the government’s complete immersion in corruption. The long-term consequences of that await…

South Africa is Zim’s younger brother.

You won’t hear about it in the news simply because it’s not newsworthy. Who wants to hear about another poverty- and disease-stricken African nation begging for more handouts?

One notable difference from SA of old is the government’s complete immersion in corruption.
I wouldn’t call it a difference. It’s more of a similarity. At least now the media is allowed to report on corruption. Back in the day the Nats probably put the ANC to shame in the corruption dept without a whiff of it getting close to the media.

Really? Explain the recent events involving Winnie? or any of the others who have come out quite guilty yet are still openly supported by the government?

and what good is reporting on this crap if nothing is DONE about it?

Really? Explain the recent events involving Winnie? or any of the others who have come out quite guilty yet are still openly supported by the government?

and what good is reporting on this crap if nothing is DONE about it?

Really? Explain the recent events involving Winnie? or any of the others who have come out quite guilty yet are still openly supported by the government?
Hey I never said corruption doesn’t happen, I’m 100% confident it does. All I’m saying is that if you think there was little or no corruption in the Apartheid days you are seriously deluding yourself.

And one must make a difference between being supported by the government (as in official offices of the government) and being supported by the ANC. During the whole Lewinsky affair the Democrats were pretty much all supportive of Clinton despite the fact he was being less than truthful. Same thing here. While the dominance of the ANC in government makes one think that ANC = government there is still a difference.

Besides, Winnie is not really liked anyway by the top tier of the ANC, she seems to be tolerated because of her popular appeal and the only outright support she gets is from the loons at SASCO.

and what good is reporting on this crap if nothing is DONE about it?
Last time I checked Winnie (and Tony Yengeni) were both found guilty in court. And the current fracas around the defence minister is putting quite a bit of heat on him as well at the moment.

A good friend of mine is South African; I got to know him when he was a H.S. student living in the U.S. with his dad, who was then a visiting professor near here. I haven’t seen my friend in years, but have kept in fairly regular contact with him via snail mail and e-mail. My friend went on to college, and then to law school; he is half-Afrikaner and half-German, but about as much of a radical left-winger and non-racist as they come. He used to do literacy tutoring in the townships, among other things, and was kicked out of the ANC youth organization toward the end of apartheid (he says) because he was white, although he very much considers himself an African. He would very much agree with everything that edwino and several others have said; he loves South Africa, and thinks it’s the most beautiful place on Earth, but is deeply saddened to see it descend further into poverty-motivated violence and HIV infection. (I also have some distant relatives in South Africa, but have only met one of them in person, and have no idea where she stands politically; she is a lovely person, but is rather elderly, and I didn’t feel it appropriate to engage her in an animated political discussion on a first meeting.)

After he passed the bar, he very much wanted to do some meaningful and socially useful legal work, possibly in human rights law. He tried for a long, long time to find such a job, but for a variety of reasons has been unable to do so. Eventually he gave up and left South Africa; he is currently teaching English in Taiwan, because he has to feed himself (he’s not rich, even if he does come from an old intellectual family). He still hopes to go back and try again to create some human rights law position for himself, and do good for the country. If anyone here has any ideas for him, I’d love to hear them and pass them along.