Agree.
If you’d started with, “i don’t understand this thing, please explain”, it might very well belong in factual questions. But you started with, “I’m sure it’s some kind of safety, but that’s ridiculous”. That’s very much in opinion territory.
Also, i make mistakes, but please argue moderation either by DMing the mod, “reporting” the moderator post (which creates a DM for you and all the mods) or in ATMB. Not in the thread.
It seems this ‘safety’ can not be explained. So I will avoid them, they are pointless and only complicate the pistol. The safety doesn’t do a thing.
This may or may not help, but this is the mechanism blown up. The “little” trigger is small, centered, and spring-loaded, and requires a deliberate push before the main trigger will move at all. Designed to be seamless when actually intentionally firing, but still effective at preventing the "main” trigger from being accidentally snagged.
As I opined in a previous post, I am in full agreement; an external safety on a self-defense (SD) handgun is not only useless, but it could compromise my reaction time in a SD situation. It’s a liability, IMO. Others disagree.
And when someone asks, “But what if I accidently put my finger on the trigger, and accidentally squeeze it?”
My reply:
- Your question should be rephrased: “But what if I negligently put my finger on the trigger, and negligently squeeze it?”
- On a handgun, the external safety is between your ears.
- If you’re afraid you might negligently put your finger on the trigger, you need more training. If more training doesn’t fix the problem, you have no business carrying or shooting a handgun.
Since it’s right on top of the trigger, and the trigger needs to be pulled anyway. And the trigger gets pulled when the safety is pulled. What’s the point?
You pull the safety, you pull the trigger.
I see your point.
Ok. Maybe on something like a Glock or whatever. I would never buy a pistol that did not have a thumb safety.
Pro tip - Don’t snag your triggers on stuff, and don’t drop the gun.
Okay, statements like this are about as useful as “the safest way to travel is to not travel at all.”
It may be technically true, but in practical terms means nothing. The point is to mitigate failure modes. No one is perfect, not even you.
Wrong. In practical terms it means ‘handle your weapon safely’. The trigger ‘safety’ does nothing.
Shit happens. Denying that is denying reality. No one can help you, then. But I guess that’s fine, since you’re the only person in history to never, ever make a mistake.
But the trigger ‘safety’ does not prevent mistakes. It could still snag on your pocket or whatever and fire. It does nothing.
You assert, having never touched one. Okay.
Three gun stores yesterday. So, yes I’ve touched them.
Agree. IMO it one of the most “useless” safeties. Glock says it helps prevent a discharge if the gun is dropped. Perhaps. But accidental discharges due to a dropped gun are normally mitigated by other safeties in the internal mechanism. I mean, if it’s so good, why don’t all handguns have a trigger safety?
I personally don’t like the feel of trigger safeties. My S&W M&P compact in 9 mm doesn’t have one. It also doesn’t have an external safety. It’s a nice gun, and it didn’t break the bank when I bought it. (I’m looking at you, Sig.)
I’ll take an apology for that snipe whenever you are ready.
You’ve never ever made a mistake in your life? Good for you. I’ll start preparing your trophy.
A “safety” is any bit of mechanism that reduces the likelihood of an inadvertent discharge.
A 1911’s grip safety and the Glock’s trigger safety both prevent a discharge due to inertia if the gun is dropped. They both work equally well at that mission. And you can always invent a convoluted enough scenario involving dropping a gun that lands among obstacles sufficient to depress either the grip or trigger safety and also trip the trigger itself from inertia.
IMO the Glock trigger safety would be increasingly effective the smaller it is. Something as large as the trigger itself would not be as effective as something as small as a 3/16" diameter pin. It’s all about the likelihood of some foreign object(s) making contact with it in the course of also making contact with the trigger itself.
So don’t get one? I don’t understand what your continued arguments against it are supposed to accomplish. Your question in the OP was answered. You don’t like the answer, well too bad.
Not planning on it. This started out as a good general question but a mod moved it. I agree that a smaller safety on the trigger would at least make some sense. The ones I’m seeing cover the entire trigger.