And well you should. While robberies with other weapons have indeed roughly doubled in Australia, the rate has doubled from around 18/100K to 37/100K. Most large American cities have robbery rates in the hundreds or thousands (PDF) per 100 000.
Y’all also have less than 10% of our population
Hell,Manhattan has almost half as many people as your entire country
Just to make my point clear, America’s problems most likely have more to do with overcrowding than gun control.
Canada’s crime rate is not burgeoning. Well, counterfeiting is on the increase, but even if gun control and crime were related, you’d have quite a time relating gun control and that particular crime.
http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/040728/d040728a.htm
Violent crime doesn’t seem to be burgeoning in England. Homicide seems to be, but a disclaimer is provided:
What makes you think crime rates in England and Canada are burgeoning?
A couple of things:[ol]
[li]You need to learn how to count; not a single city in the United States has a murder rate per 100,000 of population in the hundreds, much less the hundreds of thousands.[/li]
[li]My post had nothing to do with the comparative rates of crime between our two countries, but in the rate-change of violent crime in Australia.[/li]
But since you brought it up anyway, violent crime in the United States is at its lowest level recorded in 20 years.[/ol]
I think you’re absolutely right.
Is it fair to consider the population of the U.S. in such a manner? Americans don’t live in a population of 280 million, they live in one of many smaller populations. In other words, the effects of crowding in New York only affect New Yorkers, not Floridians.
I’m not Australian.
[QUOTE=ExTank]
A couple of things:[ol]
[li]You need to learn how to count; not a single city in the United States has a murder rate per 100,000 of population in the hundreds, much less the hundreds of thousands.[/li]
[li]My post had nothing to do with the comparative rates of crime between our two countries, but in the rate-change of violent crime in Australia.[/li]
[li]But since you brought it up anyway, violent crime in the United States is at its lowest level recorded in 20 years.[/ol][/li][/QUOTE]
You need to learn how to read; that says hundreds or thousands. Also, I was comparing robbery rates, not murder rates.
Your post did have something to do with comparative rates, in an oblique way; you said you wouldn’t feel safe in Australia, but you should because you’re less likely to be robbed there. Regardless of the doubling of the robbery rate, it’s still much, much lower than in just about every urban center in the United States. Except Fort Collins, Colorado, for some reason.
Congratulations on lowering the violent crime rate. Now it’s just very high instead of unbelievably high.
Well, you were talking about major cities…
Sorry for the misunderstanding, you responded to ExTank’s comment about “your” gun control laws. I didn’t realize you were only addressing the second half of his sentence.
That is, in fact, not true.
On a daily basis, for example, my commute is affected by the daily commute of people in three different states (NY, CT, NJ). If there is a significant delay in any one of those states, I can detect it.
Furthermore, for example, the snowbird population of Florida performs mass migrations from NY to Fla and back. The difference can be significant, and create considerable traffic changes. Especially considering the older population now on the florida roads.
http://www.cojoweb.com/earthlights.html
This is a large photo. Examine the US East Coast. Then examine Alaska. Trust me. We’re crowded.
Fair enough, but is the crime rate in your home city affected by population pressure in New York the way New York’s crime rate is affected by population pressure in New York?
… yessssss.
I work in Queens and the Bronx. I live Up The River. As in, being ‘sent up the river’.
The nearest place I could afford a house and still commute to work is two states over, so I’m still in an apartment. I have a short 40 mile daily commute. I know people with a 100+ mile daily commute.
:smack: My bad for inadvertantly transposing “of” for “or”; it’s what I get for reading and writing late at night w/o my glasses. 
BUT: you’re comparing moldy apples to rotten oranges.
You’re using 1995 American Crime Stats by City Size against 2003 Australian Crime Stats by Nation. Without a breakdown of Australia’s Violent Crime Rate by Municipality Size for comparison against the United States’ current stats of the same type of data, your conclusion is inaccurate as there is no basis for comparison between the selected data sets.
And in any case, the real point is that Australia’s Violent Crime Rates are rising dramatically, while the U.S.'s are dropping.
How long do you think it will be before the Aussies see those increases in Sexual Assaults, Kidnappings, and Robberies begin to translate into homicides as well?
Ever been to Australia? We have these inventions called “Crowded Major Cities” over here too. 
With, like, hostile strangers and drugs and all, wouldn’t ya know!
So why not provide the crime rates for those major cities against US major cities?
Erm, do you honestly think that Australia has a HIGHER violent crime rate in ANY activity than you lot do in the US? Especially those involving guns? I find it interesting that you would feel less safe in Australia than you would in most major populated areas in the US.
Carry on sniping.
Yes, why not? Be my guest, my Joycean friend. 
Funny, you talk about sniping, but you make tangential-at-best-comments and then won’t provide a cite?
Explain precisely how a comparision of Australian violent crime rates per X of pop versus US violent crime rates per X of pop is tangential to a discussion of violent crime.
Unless of course you think that only Americans have a right to participate in this discussion.
You really should read a thread you’re posting in.
“You’re using 1995 American Crime Stats by City Size against 2003 Australian Crime Stats by Nation. Without a breakdown of Australia’s Violent Crime Rate by Municipality Size for comparison against the United States’ current stats of the same type of data, your conclusion is inaccurate as there is no basis for comparison between the selected data sets.”
Moreoever, even if we were looking at similar population centers, there would still be other variables to take into account.
Now you want to provide a cite, or keep sniping?
And you really should read you own posts. You recently requested precisely this specific and evidently (according to you) useless comparison.
Any other rude and unfounded comments you want to make to a complete stranger? Otherwise, I think we’re done. Go back to talking about the US.