And to think Crusoe was worried about this turning into a 'let’s trash Britain" thread!
It seems “let’s trash Bosda” is loads more popular! 
Most laughs I’ve had at my own expense in weeks.
BTW—the above is not sarcasm. This notice provided for the humor-impaired by the Sinead O’Connor For Pope Committee Of Walla Walla, Washington. 
Nitpick: The Irish drink Whiskey with an “e”. The Scots drink Whisky without the “e”.
So much of the American Irish resentment to Britain seems based on a romanticised view of both Irish and UK history. Recently New York City dedicated a memorial to the Great Hunger, which some historians have criticised as playing directly into the black-and-white view noted above. It’s true that many (although I don’t think it’s even near a majority) of Irish immigrants came during and right after the Hunger. And as I understand it, it’s probably true that English were quite ineffectual in dealing with it - but it’s doubtful any government of the time would’ve been any better. But many of the Irish, already resentful of English social and political power, were all too ready to believe that the English would intentionally let hundreds of thousands of them die. Combine that with the pervasive discrimination the Irish confronted in the United States - often by persons of English descent - and, well, you have a narrative that’s very difficult to to uproot.
One of my chess mates ( 
) is from Northern Ireland (I’m English), and he spent an evening running through 900+ years of Englishmen interacting with Ireland.
So it’s not a trivial or simple conflict.
On a personal note:
As a law-abiding UK citizen, I am stunned by the sight of other UK citizens, who particularly claim to respect the Monarchy, throwing petrol bombs at the police*.
Or shouting abuse (and throwing missiles) at children because they are walking to a school that teaches a different branch of Christianity.
Yeah, I’ve often thought that if they were truly ‘Loyal’ they should shut the fuck up and do what we say. However, in reality I think the loyalty is actually only to their own hegemony…
What if you’re Scots-Irish?
Do you guys all really think this was a legitimate question? the OP?
Damn, I smell a troll. Even from an Aussie that was a fairly ridiculous question, IMHO.
BTW, Does anyone know why the English have a problem with Germany? (thought I heard that somewhere…)
I’ve heard rumours about them not seeing quite eye-to-eye with the French. Does anyone have any more info?
I feel I should apologise somewhat for a snippy (and not entirely well-thought out) first response in this thread.
Why?
This is the SDMB. A certain ammount of give & take is normal here.
If we can’t take what you gave , why, we’re too sensitive!
Okay, cool. I think.
… but when has that ever stopped me sticking my two cents in.
I think, in a sense, you’re both right. The issue is - particularly in the States - too commonly mischaracterised as a holy war, as if the two sides would be just as happy to convert as to kill each other. But it’s also too commonly mischaracterised as a battle between Ireland and Britain, ignoring the real issue on the ground which is the deep animosity between the communities within the six counties themselves.
From the republican perspective, the English - I suppose it’s more accurate to say the British, but let’s face it England has pretty much always been the one wearing the trousers - do bear the ultimate responsibility for the ongoing conflict (and it isn’t as remote as that word “ultimate” might make it seem). But we know your average Englishman isn’t personally responsible for it and, indeed, probably wishes his country had never heard of this island in the first place. And if jjimm wants to hand me his severed fingers, I’ll use them to count the number of Irish I know who actually do just hate English people.
Admittedly I do know a few. But not many.
What, you know Roy Keane??!!! That’s gonna impress a few people round here.
I just wanted to pop in and say Tamerlane has got his/her Williams straight.
William III is one bastard we should not have exported, in hindsight. Of course, there’s a lot more of them, although they weren’t all called William.
I don’t think Roy Keane hates the English everton, after all his wife and kids are English.
Definitive answers to Irish history questions - at least up to the 1920’s - can be found in The Story of the Irish Race by Seumas MacManus. Read it if you have any questions about what happened in Ireland and when.
If you’re refering to the “English Wanker” comment I’ve got news for you, it’s not true. he called him a wanker alright but nationality never came into it.
As for the OP (well whatever it is) Yep there are anamosities but mostly as Twisty says it’s about previous administrations not the people.
Your cite being… Roy Keane (via Eamonn Dunphy).
This thread makes me want to pop down to the pub for a pint!
Doh - I know all that stuff about Keano, I was winding you up.