(One also fails to notice a campaign to demonstrate that Zachary Hammond Was No Angel ™)
Did they attach the #BlackLivesMatter to those tweets?
No idea. I don’t Twitter generally, 'cause I’m an elitist douche.
ETA : but it does seem so.
First, I don’t really see that hashtag in those tweets. And second - how is “BlackLivesMatter” relevant to Zachary Hammond shooting?
That’s the point: “BlackLivesMatter” is a divisive slogan. If they adopted a non-racial slogan (like OurLivesMatter or something) then they wouldn’t look like idiots attaching the slogan to a white teen’s shooting.
Maybe no one could dig up anything incriminating? They did dig up something on the girl that was in the car…
Tori Dianna Morton, 23, of Pickens was in the car but uninjured in the incident, police said. She was charged with simple possession of marijuana and released Monday from the Oconee County Detention Center, according to police and jail records.
A SLED check of Morton’s record showed a conviction last November for shoplifting of less than $2,000 and violation of a drug paraphernalia ordinance.
Zach Hammond had no criminal record, according to SLED.
But most probably they didn’t dig hard enough. The case is not that newsworthy. The guy was white.
The Zachary Hammond shooting is being used in some quarters as a way to discredit the Black Lives Matter movement, by suggesting that his shooting is being ignored in the media because he’s white. I suspect the people attaching the BLM hashtag to stories about Hammond are doing so as criticism of the movement, not in support of it.
That’s a good example of what I was saying. Shows the ridiculousness of the #BlackLivesMatter tag. Because it is racially divisive. So if BLM doesn’t pick that incident up and spread it wide, they show they are hypocrites and that only black lives matter to them. But if they do, they look like idiots using the #BlackLivesMatter tag on it.
I’m a regular on Twitter and I heard about it right away from #BlackLivesMatter - even his parents admitted they were the only people giving it attention.
Here are some BLM activists tweeting about it and asking what happened to the #AllLivesMatter people.
Not all the tweets have the BLM hashtag because he had his own # that was trending at the time - but they were the ones trending it.
Not really. Feminists advocate for men’s issues. Straight people advocate for GLBT issues. White people advocate for Black issues. Why can’t BLM advocate for others?
Note that most of those are digs at “AllLivesMatter” (which, AFAIK, is not a “movement”, or anything really, so they really don’t have a point) and not advocacy for Hammond.
There were 1,000’s of tweets in the last two weeks. I chose some at random - in particular the ones that mentioned #AllLivesMatter, for your benefit.
Hey man. Did you ever do a poll of people to find out what is “racially divisive”? Maybe you should ask some other people about if they think it is. You could ask black people and all other kinds of people too, (if you see color).
You use the phrase all the time. But it makes you sound as if you are alone in a room asserting something and somewhat out of contact.
There is a little of the self fulfilling prophecy about it, at least with you.
Attention AllLivesMatter proponents: Here is a Black Activist who agrees with you. An interesting article about Black Activism with some historical examples, in particular the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party (MFDP), and how they were successful using an inclusive approach:
To understand the MFDP’s threat, we need to look at their strategy. For example, the MFDP’s work on voter disenfranchisement was never framed as a purely racial issue. In a 1964 MFDP newsletter, we can see the party use multiracial appeals to set itself as the only true and legitimate political force for all people in Mississippi.
This strategy created potential for political solidarity rooted in shared interests, not empathy or pity. Given that police brutality has killed thousands of non-Black people in the last ten years, it would serve us well to take a page from the MFDP playbook. Instead, many of us choose to pursue a staunch race-only line.
Fannie Lou Hamer summarizes the party’s stance on race, “it wasn’t racial exclusive because we tried to include poor blacks and whites and any other body that was really concerned about real changes. Because, you see, to have a real change, we can’t do the same thing that they’ve done in the past, right? So, it would have to be a change from that.”
For Hamer, clean politics was about fair participation for all people: “if they would give us a chance we could make things better for everybody… I don’t want no politics if it’s just going to involve us [Black people].”
Fannie Lou Hamer didn’t go to the ‘64 convention demanding—as some Black Lives Matter activists do today—that Black leadership be foregrounded. As she stared down the Democratic party and their allies in the national Black leadership class, she did so as a member of a grassroots political party intimately connected with the needs of poor people in Mississippi.
It has always been the centering of participatory politics, not the elevation of Black leadership, that has been truly threatening to white elites. That’s why a concerted effort was made to destroy Fannie Lou and the MFDP, and within ten years, their form of participatory political organizing had been all but extinguished.
No, she was definitely a Palin supporter back in the day; it’s on her Facebook page, and she doesn’t deny it.
Those two are just trouble. They set up that OA206 website and applied as a BLM chapter only a few months ago, and have been creating problems and discord for the larger group ever since. They have their own agenda.
I’m not sure why saying All Lives Matter diminishes Black Lives Matter… Coming from a Native American POV the first includes me… the second excludes me.
I’m always for inclusion. Especially since “The racial group most likely to be killed by law enforcement is Native Americans, followed by African Americans, Latinos, Whites, and Asian Americans.” Who Are Police Killing? | Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice
More about this at:
Everyone wants to be heard, everyone wants their opinion validated. The police kill a lot of people of all races unjustly, but people let the racial aspect divide them. It should be a united cause and I wish more people of all backgrounds would come together in force because then maybe something could actually be accomplished legislatively.
Most cops are good people that do their jobs well, but there is a problem in this country with police brutality and the bad cops that violate the rights of fellow citizens and murder them should be prosecuted, local prosecutors that refuse to charge these officers or even take them before a grand jury even when the evidence is overwhelming they acted illegally are a huge part of the problem. In this particular issue the racial component may be there but it is tangential to the real and larger problem of the police abusing their authority over all regular citizens as a whole.
Well, no, because it’s a somewhat related but at the same time completely different incident.
What happened to Zachary Hammond is terrible, but there’s no perception that it was the effect of an organized systemic campaign against people of his race.
I would “like” this but, since this isn’t Facebook, I will just say this is eloquently stated.
Exactly. The “Black Lives Matter” issue is the significant difference in the way police approach black and white persons. Police – even black police – are more likely to shoot black suspects than white ones.
There is a similar problem with mentally ill suspects. Police forces are under some pressure to train officers better ways to deal with mentally ill suspects, to try to reduce the number of shootings.
All lives matter…but some groups of people are at additional risk, in some cases through no fault of their own. (In the case of mentally ill people, their behavior is, at times, at fault, but it’s hard to blame them, as they don’t have the behavioral support training that most others have.)
You sound so reasonable.
There are many who do not believe it is tangential at all, including many who have watched recent video cam films. This whole thread is about that.