When did American businesses face the least uncertainty?

As far back as when Obama won the party nomination, and certainly since he won the general election, there has been a near constant drone of “uncertainty.” Obama causes uncertainty. Businesses can’t grow, or invest, or hire new employees, because Obama and the liberal Democrats have caused uncertainty. Not much point debating this any more, it’s been well established in my thread about business:

Do you want more? This sentiment is all through Sam’s rant about Obama’s anti-business posturing. And comes up when ever the economy or stimulus is mentioned.

So I ask, in retrospect, when was the least uncertain time for businesses small and large? Pick any point over the past 224 years.

As a teachable moment for fledgling Democrats, what is it that Republicans do differently? What makes businesses feel so warm and cozy that they rush out the expand?

Now that we’ve established Obama as the one of the most anti-business president ever, who was the most pro-business?

I would say the past 30 years, when businesses were assured by the government that they would not have to compete, and if they still failed, the government would bail them out. Obama is considered ‘anti-business’ because he wants to end the free ride (although he doesn’t seem to have done much about it).

If you are measuring “uncertainty” by businesses willingness or ability to expand, then I would suggest that real GDP growth would be a good metric.

Least uncertainty probably would have been the mid to late 90s before the dot-com crash. Businesses were so confident that they were going to expand that peopel were willing to throw millions at businesses with no clear idea as to what, if anything, they produced.

“We” haven’t done anything of the sort.

Sure we have. Look at the economy, look at the unemployment numbers, look at the former Obama supporters and business leaders all jumping ship. It’s no coincidence the Dow peaked at the end of Bush’s reign, plunged when Obama won the nomination, and jumped off a cliff when he won the general election.

Obama’s anti-business posturing has created one of the most uncertain times for businesses. So now I’d like to know when the least uncertain times were, and try to understand what Republicans do to create them. What is it about their posture that makes small business expand and hire people?

There is a statistical correlation between Democrat presidencies and strong economies. You can argue that there is a lag time between policies and their effects such that concluding Democrats cause better economies doesn’t necessarily follow. But you can’t claim that the economy is better under Republican presidents because it demonstrably isn’t. This one administration does not make a pattern, however I’m pretty sure this recession started a few years before Obama stepped foot into the Oval Office.

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The Dow is up 30% since he was sworn in. :dubious:

My offhand thought is that things were pretty pro-business in the era of the robber barons.

Dead cat bounce.

And it’s little comfort to all the people that lost all of their retirement savings.

I wish these guys would add in the data for control of the House and Senate as well. ONLY tracking the President misses way too much of the picture.

Let’s just get this straight.

The stock market continued to go down until Bush left office.

Since then, during Obama’s term, it’s picked up 30%.

Is that it?

BTW, dead cats don’t bounce. :eek:

I’d say that the least uncertainty was in 1929, or so. Everyone was absolutely convinced that growth would continue indefinitely. Of course, that certainty was wrong, but that’s not what this thread is asking.

That’s not just moving the goalpost, it’s strapping a booster rocket to it.

Okay, so far we have one vote for the Dot Com era 1995–2000, and the roaring twenties (including the robber baron era).

I was going to vote for Friday, October 16th, 1987.

The summer of 1973 was also pretty certain. Life is good when you don’t have to worry about liberal policies messing with your future profits.

Although the summer of 2001 was pretty sweet for the airline industry; a new Republican president with his pro-business posturing, no need to fear UHC, random taxes, or unnecessary paper work. Good times.

Wait a minute. I lost my retirement savings, but then I got it back, when the stock market came back. Didn’t everybody else?

Not if you pulled everything out of the market.

The OP is not interested in a real discussion, just political posturing.

Are you suggesting that there weren’t times of certainty?

I think s/he is suggesting that you are fishing in this thread. I happen to agree. What you REALLY want to do is try and disprove or dismiss the idea that uncertainty is causing some of the troubles we are going through without actually having to address the points that were raised in the quotes you put in your OP. Seeing as how your philosophy demonstrated in previous threads runs contrary to some of the statements you’ve made in THIS thread, I’d say it’s fairly clear who you are fishing for.

-XT

If not Knorf, I will suggest that. The best you’ll get is false certainty, like Chronos said.

EDIT: That doesn’t mean there weren’t times of more or less uncertainty, however. :stuck_out_tongue: