Some of the “racism” is pure survival instinct. One example I’ve heard of Black racism is in a lot of places they don’t want their children dating white women.
It makes sense though in that, not long ago, talking to a white woman in the South could, and did, get you disappeared.
If my brother or uncle got lynched, and the vast majority of southern Black families have had at least one person killed in that manner, then it’d make sense for me to not want my grandson to date outside the race.
You can find bigots in any large group of people, and that certainly includes black people - the Nation of Islam has plenty of them, and so do related groups like The Five Percenters. The charge that black people are racists for supporting Obama is a desperate smokescreen from conservatives who want to go on the attack rather than dealing with their own record with minorities. On the whole that record is pretty dismal. The attack blames the lack of support for conservatives on anti-white racism rather than conservatives’ failure to reach out to minorities or adopt policies they support. I’m sure it makes some conservatives feel better (we don’t have a problem, they have a problem!) Ultimately I don’t think it’s going to do them much good. Bigger changes are going to be necessary as the proportion of nonwhites grows in proportion to whites.
Or the brothers just taught him what to do and say, and the kid had no idea what the implications of him doing so were.
And yes, I have met racists of color, but that fact doesn’t absolve Caucasians, as the statement quoted in the title of the thread attempts to do (especially since in the case I’m thinking of, I think she was mentally unbalanced - I just wish I’d handled it with more dignity and aplomb instead of just “running away”). It really is just finger pointing: “WE aren’t racists; THEY are! WE are innocent; THEY are the real danger!”
Which, in some sense, could be considered… nah, too easy. 
Minority racism that I see is when someone white has an opnion and the immediate interpretation is that it is a racist motivation. If you are against illegal immigration, you are accused by Hispanics as being racist against Mexicans. If you don’t support Obama, you’re racist because he’s Black (I see this accusation all the time on the Dope so it’s more of a Dem thing). Why is it that EVERYTHING has to be drawn along racial lines. Can’t I talk to a student who is misbehaving who coincidently <insert ethnicity here> without being called a racist.
Eh, that’s just a (mostly) bullshit defense mechanism and should be recognized as such.
Show me where on the Dope someone has been accused of racism solely for not liking Obama.
If I am black, and I only vote for Obama because he is black, that is racist.
If I am white and I only vote for Romney because he is white, that is racist.
If I am black, and I vote for Obama because his political beliefs match mine, I am voting responsible
If I am White, and I vote for Romney because his political beliefs match mine, I am voting responsible
All that being said,
BTW, will the NAACP provide any assistance to hispanic or asian people? If people of those races attempt to get funding or assistance from NAACP, will they help?
I dunno, if I was a member of a minority comprising 13% of the population of a nation and having a long history of slavery, oppression and discrimination…
I’d vote for pretty much any member of my people who ran for office.
Everyone is a little bit racist. Isn’t that how the Q Street song goes?
Apropos of nothing, I think blacks (assuming American blacks) would be better off splitting their votes as best they can. Right now the Republicans ignore them and the Democrats take them for granted. Not a good place to be.
And while blacks do often vote for “their own” they also have a decent track record for voting for, you know, the better candidate. No more or less than whites or others (not sure what an hispanic actually is other than a South American)…
Anyone can be a racist. Those most victimized by racism would seem to me more likely to be racists themselves because of the impact on their life. They’ll believe races are real because of the way peoples perceptions have affected their lives.
That would be the case if black Americans felt Republicans were touting policies that were about as good as the ones the Democrats have offered. Since those voters evidently don’t feel that way, it’s a pretty dumb idea. You’re saying (and other people who’ve made this argument are saying) that black voters should deliberately vote against their interest in the hope they get a better offer next time. In reality, the Republican candidate would probably laugh all the way to the White House and then start enacting policies they oppose, and they’d have a hard time making that up next time they went to the ballot box. I think that if large numbers of black voters felt they were being taken for granted, the Democrats could lose them. But you don’t switch your vote in the hope you’ll get a better offer later. You get a better offer and then switch your vote.
Sort of a catch-22 (as well as a bit of a philosophical question as to which party is ACTUALLY better for blacks or anyone else)…if more blacks or hispanics or whatever group voted for Republicans (or Democrats) then they would get more representation and focus from the party on their issues, since that’s how big tent parties actually work in the US. They certainly aren’t going to go out of their way to represent your group if they don’t think there is anything (i.e. votes) in it for them.
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If blacks started splitting the vote you would get Republican candiates who would pander to them to garner their vote. This would result in their being either more black Republicans or more black-dependent Republicans. Either way, the party would have to start listening/reacting to that voting block as it would start to gain it’s own foothold in the Republican party. The Democrats do take the blacks for granted so anything that shakes that up will benefit blacks. Even if done sporadically as the Democrats would come running back to defend their base.
So no, not a dumb idea if you think about it.
If you look at history the years the black vote was most competitive were 1956 when Eishenhower received 39 percent of the vote and 1960 when Nixon received 32 percent of the black vote. The years between 1956 and 1964 were when most of the civil rights legislation was passed. It seems like having their votes up for grabs accomplished alot.
I know it is a quirky bit of philosophy you have but races ARE real socially, if not scientifically. Just because you can pretend race doesn’t exist without having your bubble burst rudely doesn’t mean everyone has that luxury.
This isn’t meant to be hostile really, but I could see other people getting really pissed off at “race does not exist”.
No, they wouldn’t. They would say “thanks for voting for me when I’m offering you nothing” and laugh their asses off. If you vote for someone for no reason, they have no reason to pander to you - you’ve just told them you’ll give them your vote for free. They need to give you a reason to vote for them. You don’t vote for them and then hope they’ll provide a rational reason for your past vote in four years. This is a little bit pointless in that this isn’t how people vote anyway- they vote more or less individually and don’t decide how to apportion their votes as a group. But no, it doesn’t make sense for non-conservative black people to vote Republican in the hope that Republicans will start targeting black votes in the future.
I think you have that all backward. In the '50s and '60s, there were a lot of anti-Civil Rights (Southern) Democrats and pro-Civil Rights (Northern) Republicans. I expect that’s why the votes were more divided.
They do get pissed off. But I’m really good at resisting peer pressure.
Um, isn’t everyone at least somewhat prejudiced in favor of people of their same (income level)(culture)(tribe)(family)?
The trouble with “racism” is that it is a vast blurry description that is shorthand for whatever the group who uses it wants it to mean. Especially handy because “race” itself is such an artificial construct.
That said, I agree that the “Blacks are racist” accusation (normally used by white racists), is a variation on the Rovian practice of accusing your enemies of what you do yourself much more, and much more evilly, in order to then call it equivalent and therefore baseless.
Is the OP assuming that there are no Democratic racists?
Some of the biggest racists I know are yellow dog democrats.
No. The reason stated for Black racism is they voted for Obama but since Blacks vote for Democrats overwhelmingly, it stands to reason that Blacks aren’t just voting for the Black guy. My aunt would have voted for SOS Clinton had Michigan had a primary. My mother; Obama. And while I would have been disappointed if Obama had lost the nomination. Clinton would have had my vote in the general election.