Somebody is wearing a polo and a hemp bracelet right now.
True enough. I never take offense when somebody hates my favorite band(s), because there’s no objectivity involved in such matters. I always find it strange when people do take such things personally.
Sorry. I’m wearing a Bubba Ho-Tepp t-shirt. I’ve never worn a baseball cap backwards and I don’t even own a pair of flip flops.
Oh, never been in a frat and am practically a teetotaler too.
Boring, I will grant you, is pretty subjective. But trite and predictable? M-W’s online dictionary gives trite as “hackneyed or boring from much use” and “not fresh or original.” That certainly has application to music. As for predictable: when I can be correct in most of my guesses about what a melody or harmony is about to do, what would you call that if not “predictable”?
I think you have been confusing *bad *with not enjoyable. For instance, right now, I am eating a slice of chocolate-chip pumpkin bread. I am quite sure that it is packed with calories and has little to no redeeming nutritional value. However, it is delicious, and I enjoy it, despite it being “bad” in the food sense of “not healthful.”
I, for one, am offended! Offended. You, sir, need a spanking.
Rock has included large helpings of focus group rock industry machine crap ever since Sun Records began to make money with something that certainly wasn’t rhythm and/or blues.
Relax, man. I was teasing you.
I know. I just like mentioning my Bubba Ho-Tep shirt as often as I can. It’s geektastic.
Now *that *we can agree on. I really gotta watch that again.
Fair enough.
Indeed I do, madam. Indeed I do.
I’m mystified as to how the DMB could ever have been considered cool.
But then again, I’ve never lived in the US. Over here we tend to view them as a curiously American thing of which we’ll never understand the popularity.
True but I think it’s been a steady decline ever since. Weren’t the Monkees the first 100% manufactured pop act? It seems to me that bands were discovered with an established sound and promoted with that a lot more a few decades ago, and then it got to a point where originality simply could not compete. At this point we are at a place where even top 40 rock stations cannot compete with homogepop stations. New York City’s last current rock station folded and became another Pop station.
Dave Matthews Band is just way too easy listening for me.
Sublime.
Sublime…
Ugh…FUCK Sublime! For all the same reasons you just condemned DMB.
What?!
Sublime is awesome! They shouldn’t even be spoken of in the same thread as DMB. Sublime had genuine talent, quirky lyrics with a great sense of humor, awesome instrumentals and great guitar riffs, and an all around “fun” sound that was an exquisite soundtrack to the high school years of weed, booze and partying. I can’t think of a single Sublime song that I DON’T like (except maybe What I got, which is WAY overplayed on the radio) - Sublime knew their shit, musically and instrumentally, and it also had SOUL which is severely lacking in today’s lame-ass mediocre bands. I will defend them to the death.
Whuuuu? I’ve easily met 10 Dave fanatics for every Sublime fan I’ve ever met (not counting the people who just like Santeria or What I Got or whatever.) Plus everything Argent Towers said. They were practically the soundtrack of my teen years. Granted, I think I was actually on the leading edge of that one, and the fans might’ve gotten douchier and more numerous as I grew up and stopped noticing, but . . . they were a fucking amazing band.
I rest my case.
To quote almost every person I’ve ever met in both high school and college “Sublime man! They’re singing about WEED, MAN! WOOO!!! AAAAHHH!!! OOOOWW! WOOOO!!!111!!!1”
I enjoyed some of Sublime’s songs…the first 2000 times I was subjected to them. But then their fans just wouldn’t. shut. the. fuck. up.
I totally will concede that individual peoples’ experience will be unique. But in my own personal life, I have NEVER encountered militant, obsessed, annoying fans of Sublime the way I have with the crazy DMB frat cult.
Oh, and I didn’t start high school until '99, so it’s not like these were kids who were getting into the band while Brad was still alive.
I brought this up in the 24/7 DMB thread, but the reason people hate Dave Matthews is not because of his music. It is because of the lifestyle they feel his music represents.
Nearly every band that everyone thinks is awesome eventually becomes hated. If the dude from Sublime didn’t die and they put out 4 more albums, I would bet that they would be as hated as Dave Mathews. Maybe even as much as Fred Durst.
I’ll find out in about a month if Tool or Coldplay are more awesome in concert.