When did we stop building cities?

I’m under the impression that we don’t build cities anymore. We just add on to existing ones. I mean, sure we may create extra city areas, but essentially, it’s all part of an already existing metropolitan area. We don’t really go somewhere, start putting up some buildings and eventually it’s Chicago (or whatever).

So when did we stop making new cities? What’s the world’s newest city? What’s America’s newest city? Or am I wrong and just yesterday a group of pioneers set out to an isolated area in Canada and started a new city?

(And here I’m speaking about cities such as Los Angeles as disinguished from San Francisco rather than Los Angeles distinguished from Long Beach.)

I think that Las Vegas qualifies as a very new major city. It didn’t exist in anywhere near its present form until the second half of the 20th century. It is still one of the fastest growing metropolitan areas of the U.S. Here is the history of Las Vegas: http://www.ci.las-vegas.nv.us/history/default.htm

IMHO cities tend to “grow” rather than be “planted” - at least here in the UK and (i’d have thought) Europe.

You could probably say, in general terms, that very few cities have been deliberately created here since the Romans were running around bopping heads. :slight_smile:

Essentially what happens here in the UK is that eventually a town will develop and grow until it reaches a point when it can apply for the right to be called a “city”.

I think there are a number of criteria it needs to fulfil including: (i think) Population size, At least one nationally recognised monument, one nationally recognised famous person/historically important figure, two big places of worship etc. etc.

There is probably a list out there of the criteria if someone has the time or inclination to look. I think relatively recently a couple of towns officially became cities so there are bound to be news reports.

When you say “we” I’m guessing you mean “the US”, or do you mean “humanity”?

Shenzhen in China was a tiny village just over a decade ago - now it’s got 2 million (?) people in it.

Milton Keynes in the UK was also a little village about 25 years ago - it’s just been declared a city by the UK government.

From a 1935 grammar school atlas (Rand McNally):

Phoenix, AZ, had a population of 48,000.

Las Vegas appears on the state map, but not on a national railroad map, and it’s not even listed in the index so I can’t give you a population.

Milton Keynes! Thats the one!

I knew there was one recently…

Thing is, most populated areas in the US have small settlements every 6 miles or so, in part because of the way the land was divided up when opened for colonization (learned a lot about that in a US history class I took at community college last year), and in part because you needed a market for local farmers that they could get to and back in a day with a wagon full of goods. It’s hard to find places on the map where it might be practical to have a city where there isn’t already a ‘city’ with a population of 300 or so. Yeah, in the mountains and out west there are vast open spaces, but why build a city in the middle of one when you can go somewhere that already has roads?

Brasilia, the capital city of Brazil (replacing Rio de Jainero), was laid out in 1957; Abuja, the capital city of Nigeria (replacing Lagos) was approved in 1976 and built through the 1980’s. (There was apparently at least a town by the name of Abuja near the site of the current city; as far as I know Brasilia was entirely new.) (Building a new planned city as a national capital seems to be a fairly common theme; look at Washington, D.C.)

Oak Ridge, Tennessee, although it doesn’t quite qualify since it’s part of the Knoxville metropolitan area, is an interesting case: the town was built by the Army Corps of Engineers in 1942 as part of the Manhattan Project. Los Alamos, New Mexico (which is part of the Santa Fe metropolitan area) also owes its existence as anything more than a dude ranch to the Manhattan Project.

*Originally posted by gex gex *

I don’t think that’s how cities come into existence, generally. Cities usually come into existence by evolving “up” from smaller settlements. There aren’t too many instances in human history where huge settlements have been created from scratch.
(See below, though).

Cities come into existence all the time (evolving from smaller settlements). Of course, it depends on how one defines “city” - that is, what’s the criteria used in differentiating settlements? In most cases, it’s an arbitrary minimum population size. In the US, an “urban area” is any settlement that has a population of at least 2500. For settlements of city size, the “metropolitan area” is often used. A metropolitan area in the US is (basically) any area that has a population of at least 50,000 (I’m oversimplying somewhat - there’s additional criteria that the US Census Bureau uses in defining what a “metropolitan area” is).

My guess, based on 2000 Census estimates, is that there are over 315 “metropolitan areas” in the US.

Can’t say for certain, but I think you question is asking if there have been instances where whole settlements have been built/establihsed of city size. In the US, I believe Reston, VA and Columbia, MD (from 1950-60s) were planned communities of city size - that is, built from scratch. I can’t say for certain whether these were near existing metropolitan areas.

I also beleive that Brazilia, the capital of Brazil, was essentially planned and built from scratch (from 1950s). My understanding was that it was to help foster development of the interior of Brazil.

Likewise, I remembering hearing about the development/building of a city between Bangkok and the international airport (1990s). There was also something similar that took place in Malaysia near Kuala Lumpur (Jayasurya, I think - 80s-90s). However, these cities were planned/built next to preexisting metropolitan centers.

On preview, looks as if MEBuckner beat me on the Brazilia info…

I’ve been studying this subject for over two decades and used to work as an urban planner, so thank you for giving me an excuse to take a whack as this question. It requires a book to answer, but I’ll try to say something meaningful compressed into a few paragraphs.

Humanity has always expanded its base by establishing new settlements. There are the usual myriad of reasons for this, but they boil down into a few major categories. People are either fleeing from something: overpopulation, soil depletion, war, drought or other natural catastrophes, religious or political persecution; or trying to find something: mineral riches, commercial opportunity, better soil, freedom. Or both at once. The one thing that is close to a true universal for all these is the presence of a steady supply of fresh water. Nothing is as important. Available farmland is second, although it is not a necessity when a mineral strike creates a “gold rush” situation.

A settlement can be as small as a single family at first or it could be a village made up of a band traveling together. Favorable places might see a whole series of villages within a few miles of one another.

These places could stay villages forever, but cities are part of an organic process of evolution. One village is located in a more favorable spot, either naturally or because a railroad or canal, e.g., is built next to it. This village begins to grow at a an increasing rate and eventually may encompass all the other villages in the area. This is certainly the way most cities in the U.S. developed.

Nor do they have to be villages for this to happen. After the Erie Canal made New York City the best site to originate trade to the entire Midwest it zoomed past its rivals of Philadelphia and Boston in population. The coming of the telegraph made it possible for stock trading to be concentrated in one spot and that also favored NYC. Its success fed on itself. It later encompassed all of its surrounding villages. Brooklyn was a separate city until 1898, when Manhattan swallowed the other boroughs and became today’s NYC. Philadelphia was officially no more than Penn’s two square mile tract until the late 19th century when it snatched all the surrounding villages and expanded to 135 square miles.

But it works the other way as well. All the ghost towns in the west are examples of cities failing to compete. Cheyenne was supposed to become a great metropolis because it was the spot where the transcontinental railroad had its great roundhouses and machines shops. It became a city, but other places grew more.

There is one alternative, but it is very rare. Occasionally, throughout history, cities have been formed for political reasons. We know of this from almost the dawn of recorded history. Alexander, e.g., created cities bearing his name throughout his conquered provinces. Only a few of these political cities have ever been sited on places starting from bare soil. Cities need water and transportation links and, even in ancient times, most of the good places already had somebody living there. Washington, D.C. was created on a site that already had Alexandria and Georgetown among other villages. I don’t know the history of other politically-created capitals, like Canberra and Brasilia, but I bet that something more than, say, raw jungle existed there first.

So the answer to your question depends on just what you mean by it. If you’re asking whether small settlements or towns are turning into cities, the answer is yes, it happens all the time. Scottsdale and Glendale, AZ, Plano and Arlington, TX, and Virginia Beach, VA, each had populations of less than 10,000 in 1950. Garland, TX, Anchorage, AK, and Aurora, CO, all were under 12,000.

But if you are asking whether any cities are popping up out of bare nothingness, out of the influence of current cities, the question has to be: where would you put them? There are currently 261 Metropolitan Statistical Areas in the U.S. Any place outside of this is probably on an Indian reservation or protected federal land.

The same has to be true in other countries. You can start a settlement or village outback where nobody lives, but how and why would it grow into a city? Cities emerge for a reason. There might eventually be a reason for a city to grow in the middle of the Gobi or Sahara deserts but we don’t have one right now.

And most people simply don’t want to go off into the wilds and start a whole new city. They want the comforts of existing jobs, people, and infrastructure. That’s why people in California live two hours or more away from their jobs, but still add to existing urban conglomerations. In Upstate New York, where a twenty-minute commute is looked at as impossibly arduous, these people are thought nuts, but the attractions of California are obvious sufficient to make this worthwhile for them. We call these distant sites suburbs or exurbs, even though they may be 100 miles from the center city. We’ve essentially defined new city-making out of the vocabulary.

Whew. That was fun. Let me know if you want me to expound some more.

Wow. Wrote too long. A million answers come up on Preview. We seem to be giving much the same speech, though.

Orlampa. New city they’re trying to build halfway between Tampa and Orlando. You can get half a dozen links from google to it.

…so I guess we’re still building them :wink:

Hijack, but a relevant one: If you were ordered to build three cities in America, each to have a population of more than 1 million within the next decade, what sites would you choose? What are the most important factors other than water supply?

chocolate. plenty of chocolate.

Just try saying “Chocolate City” and getting away with it. Oprah called Detroit that once and even she got hate mail.

I think if I were to build three cities, I’d try to please as many Americans as possible by naming them Reaganville (honors Reps. and conservatives), Kingland (honors MLK, African-Americans, and liberals), and Real World’s Dannyopolis (honors gays, frat boys, pop culture afficianadoes, and drama queens).

Another example of a city that popped up is, say, Havasu, Arizona. It has a sizable population (though by no means large), imported the London Bridge, and is a popular vacation spot… all because of Parker Dam.

For that matter, the deserts between LA and Havasu or Vegas are littered with the remains of towns (usually mining towns that look like they are from the mid-50s), the beginnings of towns, or towns based around military bases, highway junctions, or for seemingly no reason… some of them are growing alarmingly. I give it 30 years before they run into Los Angeles/Orange County, which is expanding like bread in the oven.

Or, as they seem to prefer it, Lake Havasu City.

In the case of Canberra, I seem to remember there were a couple of houses and, I think, a pub in the area, but generally you could say it was just open farming country. To this day, a lot of people refer to Canberra as “A waste of a good sheep paddock.” :smiley:

*Originally posted by Sampiro *

Good question, but I would say it would depend on the primary function of the city. Would it function primarily as an administrative center (i.e. capital)? Then my guess would be one of centralization or proximity to other major population centers.

What if your city is to be a major manufacturing center? Proximity to natural resources as well as markets served would be crucial. Also important would be transport routes/networks. Need to get raw materials/natural resources to factories in city as well as get manufactured goods to major markets in a relatively efficient manner. Also important would be proximity to energy resources. Need to have a readily available source of energy to power all those factories.

What if your city is to be a major tourist center? Here transport (and local infrastructure) I would venture is key. You want to insure that it’s relatively easy for people to get to the city. Likewise, you want to make sure that the people who visit the city have a place to stay and can get from point A to point B relatively easy. You want people’s stay to be enjoyable so they keep coming back :slight_smile:

To summerize, other considerations besides water:

  1. proximity to other population centers
  2. proximity to major energy resources (e.g river for hydroelectric power).
  3. proximity to raw materials and potential markets served
  4. proximity to major transport centers or transport networks/corriders
  5. locations that have the potential to easily develop needed infrastructure/transport networks

Good for them. What about El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora La Reina de Los Angeles de Porciuncula? That got shortened to El Pueblo de la Reina de Los Angeles, then to Los Angeles. Similarly, no one says “I’m going to Lake Havasu City” this weekend.