when do these shows start?

I would like to see The SImple Life where 2 rich gals live on the farm

and something where celebrities live together (this time its Vanilla Ice, Tammy Faye, Ron J)

When do i watch?

Check your local listings.

Well, that was helpful.

The Simple Life premiers Dec. 2 on FOX.

The Surreal Life 2 on the WB is the other show you’re talking about. It looks like it’s going to air in January, but I don’t think there’s an exact date yet.