I don’t think he’s that sympathetic. (Moreover, beyond reasons having to do with sheer terror, I can’t imagine why anybody would worship him.) Still, I do have to cut him some slack since his father wasn’t exactly the best role model.
Were any of them actually rapes? They seemed more like…“seductions.” And most of the time the women seemed pretty ready to go along with it. Though I do remember Apollo and Daphne…I suppose that fits the description for attempted rape.
I’m surprised nobody’s mentioned Cerebus. It was a big controversy when he raped a woman even though she was an unsympathetic character.
Oh, I think Spike and Angel are undoubtedly rapists. Spike because of the attempted rape in Seeing Red, and Angelus explicitly raped Drusilla and the gypsy girl (his final victim before he was souled). Angelus also told Fred he’d “rape her to death”. Granted, you could argue that wasn’t Angel, but Angel always felt he was personally guilty of those crimes. And there’s also the statutory definition–Buffy was underage when they had sex (16, but I think it’s illegal until 18 in CA).
There was a movie called “L.I.E.” in which a crazy old child molester (played by the guy who did Doc Octopus in Spider-man 2) turned out to be a pretty sympathetic character.
Also the guy who owned the newspaper (Wynand, maybe?) in Ayn Rand’s “The Fountainhead” pretty much forced the heroine into sex. I guess it’s not rape if you like it though, right? I don’t know, Rand is a bit creepy with sex, but he was one of the most sympathetic characters in the novel.
Actually, I think it was on her 17th birthday.
In Johanna Lindsay’s “A Pirate’s Love” the male lead, a pirate, captures a young English noblewoman, ties her to the bed in his cabin, and rapes her repeatedly over the course of several weeks. But it’s OK, because he’s overwhelmed by her beauty and character and they fall in love and eventually marry.
This meme is incredibly commonplace in romance novels.
In the Gor novels, most protagonists would say they are not rapists so long as they don’t have nonconsensual sex with free women. They have nonconsensual sex with slaves all the time, but slavegirls are not considered to have any status to say “No.” Still, several of the Gor novels are written from the POV of Earth women who are captured and transported to Gor as slaves, and their experiences are pretty darned nonconsensual. They always end up loving their captors, so I consider the Gor novels to be pretty much on par with the many romance novels where the women’s rapists subsequently become their true loves.
Oh yeah, you’re right, because she turned 18 in S3. Still, I don’t think the “Romeo and Juliet” law applies when the guy is over 200 years old 
I never watched, but read about sopa operas. Apparently, the guy went to public events and women would yell “Rape me Todd”, and he then quit the show.
Hmm… that line’s in Serenity as well.
Is there some way that I’m not aware of that an act of rape can, qua rape, cause death?
-FrL-
The guy in L.I.E. was played by Brian Cox, not Alfred Molina (the guy who played Octopus.) L.I.E. was actually a pretty good movie, by the way.
I came here to mention Naked.
But as that’s been done, wasn’t there a Kurt Vonnugute story from Welcome to the Monkeyhouse…I believe it was called Welacome to the Monkeyhouse, were due to over population, sex, and , due to it’s immorallity, birthcontrol :rolleyes: have been made illegal. Sucide palors are very popular. And Staffed by beautiful virgins.
The protagonist makes a practice of abducing said virgins and raping them. So they can realize the pleasures of sex :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: He was the hero. Kurt, what were you thinking?
Oh and then there’s the guy in Nexus who, being essentially the author (Henry Miller) rapes his wife in her sleep, and she’s seen as the villian.
Internal bleeding, shattered pelvis, crushed ribs, infection, asphyiation, exhaustion, shock… I’m sure our medical types could add some more. The idea being that the rape itself is but one aspect of the assault.
Another Kurt Vonnegut book about time and space travel has the main male character (I refuse to call it hero) raping the only female character while they’re on their way to some space station. After many weird strange things happen, at the end of the novel they end up living as husband and wife in Saturn, while their son (product of the rape) lives in the Saturn wilderness.
That was one weird f-cked up book… and the name escapes me… something with Saturn?
In the book, it didn’t exactly seem like rape. Rhett was angry, but he was apparently just going to give Scarlett a more vigorous time than usual. He left town the next morning, but Scarlett wasn’t angry.
I’m in the midst of On Blue’s Waters–first volume of Gene Wolfe’s Book of the Short Sun. The narrator, Horn, rapes his lover Seawrack after surviving a terrifying experience. He immediately regrets it, though.
At least, I think that’s what happened. With Wolfe, you can never be sure.
I’ll remind you that the instrument of rape need not be a biological appendage, and your imagination should fill in the gap.
THE SIRENS OF TITAN
Btw, how could we forget … THOMAS COVENANT THE UNBELIEVER???
In fact, in the movie, she’s sitting up in bed glowing & singing.
What Renault did was ask women to prostitute themselves, not rape them. If they didn’t want to prostitute themselves, they could stay in Casablanca and continue to enjoy the waters, but he would not hold them down and rape them. It was despicable, but not rape.
I’m in the middle of reading this right now for the first time. I have to admit that at the beginning of the book I was rooting for Humbert, since this is fiction, and if he doesn’t nail her, I’m stuck reading a book about a guy who constantly thinks about something but never does it and that would be boring. However, his treatment of her afterward is just breaking my heart. He kidnaps her away from every person and place she knows, rather harshly informing her that her mother has died. She’s so not into him that she’s crying every night. He pays her for her favors, while at the same time stealing her money so that she can never accumulate enough to run away. He won’t let her be around anyone her own age. He can’t even keep his paws off her while she’s sick. He keeps saying how much he loves her, while never showing any concern at all for her happiness. This little girl is completely friendless and abused.
So, I guess it’s not so much that he’s a raping pedophile, it’s that he’s a heartless raping pedophile.