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I always kind of wondered about it. In Leo Airlines, I give me my own boarding pass. How does that work, integrating it into airport security and procedures?
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I always kind of wondered about it. In Leo Airlines, I give me my own boarding pass. How does that work, integrating it into airport security and procedures?
As I understand it, you get to go through the “General Aviation” terminal if you own the aircraft. There is no security check whatsoever in most airports.
Now, if you own the airline, but boarding the aircraft means you have to board through the normal airport terminals, then yeah, you have to pass security. Presenting your “I own the airline” card isn’t justification to skip it. Also, with a 747, in some airports it may not be possible to park it on the general aviation side of the airport, so you’d have to pass through security with the rest of the rabble.
C’mon, think like a rich/powerful person. You don’t carry illegal stuff, your helpers do that for you. Ones you can trust will take the fall if they get caught with the guns/drugs/etc and not rat you out. Those guys can carry that stuff on a separate flight from you so you don’t have to dirty yourself carrying illegal gear.
Private aircraft fly out of their own special terminals and don’t have to go through TSA security. If you decide to start operating scheduled flights and selling tickets, you’ll have to rent a gate at a security-controlled terminal, though.
As above. At some airports you won’t be able to park a B747 at the General Aviation area and you’d then have to be a part of the security process. There are shortcuts for flight crew though (at my home base there is a separate crew / ground staff checkpoint that is out of sight of the passengers and literally never has a queue.)
Yeah, I kind of wondered about that. There was a big noisy news story last week about a Saudi prince who apparently didn’t understand the proper care of sex workers, and he was charged, but made bail. Aaaand the smart money said he promptly scarpered off to his private jet and booked it back to Saudi Arabia.
Which begs the question of why they’d agree to let him post bail in the first place, but I am no expert on such things. But much was made of the fact that his family apparently had a private jet at LAX.
But probably a lot smaller than a 747.
[I’ll park this thread drift here for the moment – will it work? :): what if, God forbid, I could be a mass murderer/terrorist. I don’t have to get a background check for my license, do I? Say I fly the thing too. (I believe John Travolta flies and owns his own 747. Not that he’s a massmurdering terrorist.)]
Huh. So apparently, if you are a U.S. citizen, you only have to be background checked for DWIs. You can have your pilot’s license if you got caught for another crime. Not that this means much since no airline would hire someone with a crime on their record, but you can have a license.
Anyways, regardless, a mass-murdering terrorist who the authorities know the identity of wouldn’t be openly trying to do it legally like you describe. They would just hijack the aircraft or something.
John has a 707, not a 747. He parks it in his front yard too.
I’m not sure whether or not to be impressed (it does look awesome) or to rag at the conspicuous consumption. *Why *is a person that acts like someone else in front of a movie camera worth the life’s work of probably hundreds of educated, intelligent craftsman who make things? I’m not even saying he isn’t worth that, I’m just wondering how it is possible.
You could always start your own Air Force and own your own military aircraft. Then, whenever Army people fly on your plane, require them to receive an anti-hijacking briefing and sign a sworn affidavit stating they’re not going to hijack the plane and they aren’t bringing any short-barreled shotguns on board. Machineguns are okay. Be sure to allow those. But draw the line at short-barreled shotguns for some reason. Offer no exceptions to your policy. Make them do this every single damn time they ride in one of your planes. Even if you’re only going to fly them five minutes away so they can jump out with parachutes, make them sign the affidavit and receive the briefing…
There are several factors involved. 49 CFR 1544 says in general commercial air carriers and charter or fractional operators are required to have their passengers screened by the TSA or a TSA-approved commercial entity. Private aircraft smaller than 12,500 lbs are not required to screen passengers provided they don’t pick up or deliver those passengers into the sterile side of an air carrier airport.
So what happens for private airplanes bigger than 12,500 lbs? 49 CFR 1550.7 applies. They need to have the full TSA-equivalent screening process. OR they need to have applied for and received a waiver. Corporations that can certify that they only carry known employees on their big jets are given such waivers routinely. Presumably Bloom Enterprises, Inc can jump through those hoops and get a waiver to spare **Leo **the indignity of being screened like a mere peon.
There are similar waiver programs available for some other categories of charter operators.
Surely Max Bialystock has partial interest in this plane?
The plane is shared for among 24 leaseholders each of whom have exclusive access 2 hrs per day.
I sense a personal backstory on this one…
He should really get a bigger garage.
I understand your bemusement at the concept, but I think the reality is that he briefly entertains millions of people, each of whom are prepared to pay for the experience. If an intelligent educated craftsman could reach that kind of consumer base they’d be worth millions of dollars too.
I think it may depend on how the ownership is structured. If Bloom Enterprises buys the airplane, pays 100% of the operating costs, and is not compensated in any way for the carriage of its passengers or cargo, you’re looking at private carriage. As far as I know, those operations are not subject to any TSA oversight, even in a 747.
However, a very common scenario is this: the airplane is registered to Bloom Aviation Holdings, but is operated under contract by a charter provider to supply lift exclusively to Bloom Enterprises. Bloom Enterprises pays the cost of the flight to the charter provider, who takes a cut, and passes the rest of the money to Bloom Aviation Holdings. IANACPA, but I believe that not only can Bloom Enterprises write off the charter costs, but Mr. Bloom’s tax liability is further reduced because Bloom Aviation Holdings is a separate corporation operating at a massive loss. Yes, the charter provider skims a little bit off the top, but that’s more than offset by the tax benefits. However, since you are now technically chartering an airplane, the TSA gets involved. Since your 747 has a maximum gross takeoff weight greater than 45,500kg you need to implement a special security program with approved airline-style screening for all of your passengers - even poor Mr. Bloom.
From a logistical standpoint, most airports that have runways and taxiways capable of supporting a 747 will have a place other than the airline terminal where you can park. There are enough Russian oil barons and Saudi princes who fly to the U.S. that its not uncommon to see one of their airliners parked out on a remote ramp somewhere.
Those are mighty long days.