I think so, since it was orchestrated from the top down.
CLOSE THE THREAD!!
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Hah, keep it up!
Well, this didn’t go according to plan.
Who told them it was being stolen? - Liars, known liars. Not a shred of evidence to back it up. They wanted to believe, without facts to back it up. They wanted to overthrow the government. Truth be dammed.
More thinly disguised ‘Whataboutism’
Praise Jebus. Now I can stop watching it.
You do you…
Me too.
I do facts.
For those still playing the home game …
An article – written on 1/8/2021 – from the venerated Brookings Institution:
I feel like he had a pretty good handle on it, awfully early on.
Liars, known liars who knew full well they were lying. See the recent depositions from Fox News executives under oath for proof of this statement.
And anyone with a brain cell to rub against their cranium knew they were lying.
I didn’t read the article (I think I did read it back when it was fresh), but the title is dumb as shit.
No, it’s not a coup — It’s a failed ‘self-coup’ that will undermine US leadership and democracy worldwide
Self-coups are pretty clearly a subset of coups. It is literally right in the name.
Yep. That’s why this whole “Oh, it’s not a coup because the rubes actually believed the lies about a stolen election” is such complete and utter bullshit.
I understand your point.
I think he makes a distinction, though, for a legitimate reason.
Self-coup puts TFG directly at the center of the crime, eliminating even the possibility of plausible deniability.
When is an attempted coup not an attempted coup? When it is successful, of course, the very moment it becomes a glorious heroic patriotic revolution.
That is the moment whataboutism reverses the polarity and the other side has to justify itself (or is simply thrown into jail, what do you think those jails are for?) while the rioters - now patrioters - bask in the adulation of the masses during a never ending victory lap. Confetti! Champagne! Fireworks! Blow jobs!
I would guess that close to 100% of them would say that “install Donald Trump as President for another 4 years” was a primary motivation.
And they really believed that this was possible, thanks to the concerted efforts of Trump and his co-conspirators. They believed the lies, even though the election wasn’t even particularly close, it was the widest margin in a U.S. Presidential election since Barack Obama’s 2008 victory.
And that constitutes an attempted overthrow of the duly elected executive branch of the government.
Go fuck yourself.
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