Well, I am in America, and I would guess that the typical person here would not know who George III was, let alone being systematically taught to hate him.
So the very creepy and disgusting reactions of the Left to the death of any prominent and successful conservative politician have no particular analog on the Right - on the SDMB at least, none of the rather few conservatives here talk about partying when a liberal dies. The Left does.
Regards,
Shodan
Heh…I called that one before I clicked.
You seem to be confusing Schoolhouse Rock with an actual, well, schoolhouse. I am a product of the US public school system, and a state university. I don’t have any animosity towards George.
I am also a reader (as in someone who reads more than the average US citizen) so I’ve read a number of histories, so I would wager I’ve read more about the history of US and England interactions than most. Still don’t hate George.
Ditto.
I do seem to recall an awful lot of ugly burn-in-Hell-you-bastard gloating (not on this board necessarily, but on boards, and not only of the Free Republic kind) when Ted Kennedy passed away.
Who, curiously, is never named in that clip, he’s just “the King.” And it obscures the fact that the colonists actually were butting heads with HMG and Parliament, not with the king – but, so does the Declaration of Independence, probably by conscious intent. (The colonists had no mystic sense of loyalty to Parliament – it was their loyalty to the king that needed to be confronted head-on.)
Not to mention the, shall we say, incredibly imaginative interpretation of the events portrayed int that SHR video.
Since I never mentioned school, no I’m not.
No, he’s named.
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I do seem to recall an awful lot of ugly burn-in-Hell-you-bastard gloating (not on this board necessarily, but on boards, and not only of the Free Republic kind) when Ted Kennedy passed away.
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IOW liberals on the SDMB are as bad as the worst conservatives on the Internet. That, I can believe.
Regards,
Shodan
Watch from 1:10 -1:20
But you’re still wrong. We don’t give a shit about George. Haven’t for many, many generations.
Actually, when Americans think of George III at all, we tend to think of him as a pathetic, tragic figure, as in The Madness of King George.
You personally might not. Many others do. The fact that the cartoon exists shows that there is a lot of hatred still directed to him.
Same as Thatcher.
No, as I mentioned, I would bet the typical American would not recognize the name.
No, it doesn’t, unless you can come up with some actual examples of people celebrating his death as they have been with Thatcher’s. Because we have a lot of people saying explicitly that they are happy she is dead. So far, you have not been able to cite even one person who said the same about George III.
Regards,
Shodan
Cite?
A quick Google search pulled up one significant mention of “hatred of King George III” in recent years. Two asshats running for office (Santorum and Romney) declared their hatred for Obama by comparing him to a boogeyman, and they pulled the name George III out of a hat to do it. I promise you, most of their intended audience could not tell you you one single fact about George III.
The average US citizen does not possess the historical knowledge that would be required to have an opinion on a monarch of another country who reigned well over two centuries ago. They simply don’t know enough to hate him.
I stand by my assertion that an overwhelming number of US citizens don’t give one bit of damn about George III, good or bad. I’d bet you a doughnut that it’s 95% or more in the don’t give a shit column of the survey.
Just because his ghost still walks the streets of your London, does not mean he does so here.
“The fact that the cartoon exists shows that there is a lot of hatred still directed to him.”
Love the way you remove that bit from my quote, then ask for a cite for what has already been proved.
Oh, and you won’t get many hits for your specific quote, but try George III Tyrant (without quotes) so see several hundred thousand examples.
That wasn’t the specific google text I searched for, but it was close. Anyway, your suggestion of alternate search terms does nothing to back up your claim. I searched your exact suggestion and came up with lots of hits to articles and discussions about whether King George III was a tyrant or not. Not all said he was, and, not all were American views. So what, proves nothing.
And as for me editing out “what has already been proved” from my quote. Seriously, an animated SHR video from the 70s is your cite? Wow, the bar for what passes for a cite is getting lower everyday.
Since it’s really hard to prove a negative, I don’t have a cite (see, I admit it, you should try it too. It’s liberating) that proves unequivocally that we don’t have a hatred for King George III, but as someone who lives here, I can assure you he rarely comes up in conversation.
Well, I agree that Americans don’t on the whole care either way about George III, but I don’t expect any cites expressing either glee or dismay at the fact that someone from centuries ago is dead. Him not being dead is what might make people comment.