I dread her being buried at sea and interfering in my dancing plans.
I just get surprised at the hatred for leaders who never committed genocide, repression or subjugation. I believe many here are letting their ideology colour their posts.
Sorry Cap’n, but unless they can drag those bits of rock closer to home, what right do they have to claim them as British? I say their “rights” were bogus anyway.
As for the bitch mentioned in the OP, she stole my milk when I was in primary school, and I loved that little third of a pint bottle at 11am.
As she said of Reagan Magnus at his passing, as she crosses over “All the Trumpets will sound for her on the other side.”
And the lefties will wallow in their usual puke.
Oh, please. Their rights are no more bogus than the rights of ANYONE living ANYWHERE. With damn few exceptions, we are all living on lands our ancestors took away from some other group of people at the point of a sword. Even you, in your Manchester home, have no “right” to be there if such rights are not gained through past use of force. Sorry, give it up to the Angles, or the Celts, or whoever had it before the Celts rolled through. :rolleyes:
If Las Islas Malvinas had a large population of Argentinian people living there, subjected to British rule, one could understand the continued interest of the Argentine government in negotiating a “return” of the islands to Argentine control. As it is, there are very few Argentinian residents. The British subjects are as much British subjects as are British subjects anywhere. Their “right” to remain a part of Britain is as legitimate as yours is.
Ooh, me first! Let me wallow in my usual puke, please.
Lemme see…
(1) Watching her and her gang of cronies wrapping themselves in the Union flag over a Falklands conflict that they could have easily deterred if they’d had an ounce of sense between them (in her view the most important thing pre-April 82 was to save £1m p.a. maintenance costs by withdrawing HMS Endurance… erm oh dear the Argies think we don’t give a shit about the Falklands, and they’ve invaded, well never mind. Several hundred dead young men and billions of pounds in costs… well worth it.)
(2) Showing her contempt for democracy by giving us Scots govt ministers with constituencies in England. These fuckers were writing laws that applied only in Scotland, so didn’t affect anyone who voted for the minister writing them, and anyone affected by these laws was powerless to vote the self-same fuckers out. Nice.
(3) Killing the coal and car industries as described by casdave above. Well fucking done Maggie! She was like a surgeon who killed every patient she ever operated on, but claimed they were much better off dead than sick.
(4) Never answered a fucking question she was asked. She was like a badly-made Turing Competition entry. Ask her a particular question on subject X and you’d get her dogmatic views on X, ignoring the question completely. This is of course what lots of politicians aspire to, but fuck her (and them) for regarding us voters as though we don’t deserve a straight answer.
Anyway, back to the OP. No, I wouldn’t celebrate her death, nor that of any human being, no matter how much I hate what they did in life. Commiserations to her family & friends and all that.
“Reagan Magnus”? Seriously?! What was he, an emperor? Why don’t you just deify him and be done with it? I’m sure you could build a very nice temple at the ranch in Santa Barbara.
Oh, wait…I’m too late:
It would probably be a more accurate monument if they put up statues of piles of Central American corpses (including nuns) and brought in some decommissioned missiles. Maybe a statue of a gay man ravaged with the complications of AIDS because there was no government study (or even acknowledgement) of the disease. Perhaps they can erect a replica of the Doomsday Clock with the hands at 11:59.
Look, NOBODY in Canary Wharf has anything to say against her.
Duh. The Cybermen think “the Iron Lady” epithet means she’s one of them…
She’s still alive? Are you sure? How can you tell?
The smell of sulfur.
Hm. I thought that would come after she died. What with the devil coming to take her home…
Peter Clarke’s article “The Rise and Fall of Thatcherism” (from a 2003 Historical Research issue; not available online for free unless you’re a student with an Athens or whatever password) illustrates how she (mis)used Parliamentary procedures to evade the trappings of democracy. It’s quite shocking.
It also expands on her disturbing homophobia, most famously demonstrated through Section 28 (there’s an informative wiki for non-Brits). I kid you not, she linked the sexual ‘licentiousness’ of the Bloomsbury group with Keynes’ supposedly dangerously excessive economic policies (because the market is so much better and being cautious and sensible than government).
There’s also her policy on apartheid, and, most disturbingly on a purely emotional level for me, the treatment of the mentally ill - rendering so many homeless by closing down so many hospitals. And no I do not think we should return to the days of Victorian asylums, but dumping people because you can get away with it - who lobbys on behalf of the schizophrenics? The Daily Mail? - is revolting.
Fucking disgusting manifestation of individualism, greed, survival-of-the-fittest - comparable to the above-noted treatment (or lack of!) of Aids victims by the Reagan govt.
So, in answer to the OP, I won’t be crying.
Wrong.
The real quote:
No talk of `licentious’ behaviour, and in fact no real proof at all that Thatcher was in any way referencing homosexual behaviour, apart from Clarke’s overactive imagination, as Thatcher’s own words make clear:
Why did you invent the `licentious’ quote?
They plat trumpets in Hell? I’d have thought kazoos.
Have you ever heard a poorly-played trumpet? Much, *much *worse than a kazoo.
While I despise Thatcher as much as anyone else here, I want to head off a potential diversion into the quagmire of the West Lothian question and its unrewarding tributaries by saying that I don’t think this really happened. Thatcher’s Secretaries of State for Scotland were Younger and Rifkind who were MPs for Scottish constituencies, and Major replaced Rifkind with Lang and then Forsyth who were also Scottish MPs.
While there might have been one or two (at the most) lower level ministers from English constituencies in the Scottish Office under Major, I don’t remember there being any under Thatcher.
The question of the Tories imposing deeply unpopular legislation on Scotland by using their majority in England is of course a different matter, but it’s very murky and should probably discussed in another thread.
Sorry, I misremembered, having not read that article for a couple of years - I confused my own paraphrasing with a direct quote.
The general point still stands though, and I’m baffled as to how you think your second quoted paragraph proves otherwise.
“Here’s your harp, welcome to Heaven; here’s your accordion, welcome to Hell!”