What’s the plot hole / illogicality that you’re referring to? You can put it in a spoiler box if you like, but I think everyone’s seen Fight Club anyway…
Now, if only MST3K would come back AND do softcore porn…
The whole split personality thing where Brad Pitt is really Edward Norton’s “other” personality. This lead to very stupid scenes of Norton fighting himself.
But this wasn’t softcore porn. It was basically a B science fiction movie. No nudity in it, even. The jewelry slaves were scantily clad, but clad nonetheless. No sex either. They even had a semi-famous star – Kari Wuhrer, who HAS done some pieces that could reasonably described as softcore (such as the aptly named “Luscious”) but this wasn’t one of them.
Die Another Day.
Invisible car.
'Nuff Said.
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My vote goes to *Total Recall * (1990), which drives me absolutely crazy. It has a great premise and most of the film is fast-paced and violent - full of energy and nifty ideas. It begins as a crackerjack sci-fi/action film and manages to sustain momentum most of the way through. Admittedly the plot gets a little wonky toward the end, but everything is still cool, then…ARGHHH!!..those stupid bulging eyeballs!!!
And an otherwise great movie goes right down the toilet.
Judging by this and some of the other choices on this thread, I would say that dumb-dumb science is a major cause of film spoilage. Don’t the Hollywood suits ever talk to real scientists?
Ah hah, but in Total Recall isn’t that evidence that it might only be a dream?
(no no no I’m not Verhoevining! Arnie even questions that before the credits role so I’m not reading any “genius” into crap!)
Arlington Road. Not a bad little movie, nicely paranoid and with a great creepy performance from Tim Robbins - but his final scheme to blow up the FBI {or whoever it was} headquarters was so ridiculously implausible as to spoil the whole movie: Jeff Bridges gets pulled over by one cop or hits one lamp-post and there goes the whole cunning plan. God, Dr Evil would have thrown that scheme out.
Oh yeah, and Shane was ruined by Jack Palance not shooting Alan Ladd.
First of all, that definitely deserved a spoiler box.
Secondly, I’ll have to disagree with you - his fight with himself later in the movie was brilliant, one of my favorite movie bouts of all time. Brad Pitt’s “character” is just utterly menacing.
It’s an obvious satire and if you can’t see that, then there’s no hope for you.
You clearly have not understood anything that went on in the film.
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Ripley wasn’t going to let Kane back aboard. Ash did it, and Ash was an android programmed with a directive to retrieve an alien at all costs.
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When Dallas went into the airshafts, nobody had seen the alien since it burst out of Kane’s chest a few hours before. It was not unreasonable to assume that it hadn’t grown to seven feet in height in a few hours.
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I’d like to see how clearly you were thinking after watching a friend die in a horrific manner right in front of you.
Training Day. Never a great or brilliant movie, but it gets ready to end on a somewhat thought-provoking, ambiguous note… then Denzel Washington’s character turns into Mr. One-Dimensional Super Evil Cop and the movie drags on to a stupid conclusion.
Someone mentioned this in another thread. The entire Face Off movie. So, they switch faces and no one can tell? So the guy is sitting there without a face, wakes up, calls his henchmen, they can understand him without lips, they come over, force a Dr to put the other guy’s face onto his, no one notices the different body types… man, there is just too much to detail.
I’m usually all about saying “If you wanted reality, what were you doing at a movie?” But this one was just too bad for me to enjoy.
Well, I’m certainly not going to say that any of that is possible, but i think that would have been obvious before seeing the film. They actually do mention the different body types in the film and how they will fix it (they show a computer doing…something…in order to change their physiques). But come on, the entire plot hinges on them being able to trade faces. I don’t really think this is a movie in which to expect total realism. 
AI!!!
Okay, getting over the fact that the movie should have ended at an earlier scene, this is compounded by the fact that
You can only bring back the mom for ONE DAY??? WTF??? Computers are, ummm, you know, digital??? :wally :wally :wally :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :dubious: :dubious: :dubious: :mad: :mad: :mad: stupid forced sappy ending
Ah, but you see, they didn’t switch faces. They switched skin. They retained their own underlying bone structure. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
As to Fight Club, I thought it was a brilliant portrayal of dissociative behavior. My girlfriend agreed with me so much so that she made her psych students watch it.
Anyone want to take on John Q or League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? Veritable treasure troves of Stoopid.
Double Jeopardy – now there’s a realistic flick. Woman loves her husband very much. They spend the night making love on a boat. Then she finds herself standing over his bloody corpse, holding a knife. The Coast Guard shows up at that exact moment, so they arrest her.
Yeah, it’s going to be that kind of movie.
She goes to prison for murder, and serves a whole six years. Six. While she’s in, she finds out he’s still alive. So she plans her revenge.
Please try to follow along with this next bit, it’s a little weird: Double jeopardy means, more or less, that if you’ve been tried for a crime and aquitted, you cannot be tried again. It does not mean that you have a free pass to commit the crime. Further, if you’ve been found guilty of murdering someone who later turns out to be alive, you do not get one free murder. Right?
Wrong. The entire movie is based on this One Free Murder premise.
There is so much more wrong with this movie, but I’ll limit myself to only one more thing: Evil hubby puts unconscious wife in a coffin. She awakes, has a look around, and sees a decaying corpse lying next to her. Must be one of those coffins built for two (but inhabited by one) that I’ve been hearing so much about.
Good post by Dooku on Mission Impossible. I liked the film, but now I realise it has bigger flaws than I thought. As for * Double Jeopardy*, the scene where she goes to a graveyard is so bad…how did Ashley Judd become a film star?
I’d like to nominate Richard Curtis films. Don’t you Americans get irritated by this stupid scmaltz? I’m thinking of Notting Hill and Love, Actually. Both have a kind of sweet premise and then turn really sickly.
Good post, tdn… Double Jeopardy may be the dumbest movie premise I’ve ever heard. The only fitting revenge for it would be to kill the writer… twice.
Two of my favorite films, actually.
I’m the strong yet sensitive type. 