Count me in with the Pink Floyd haters. Boring, souless, uninspired acid clouded rubbish that is. Pink Floyd and the Doors can both go away forever and ever.
All of my friends love Floyd though. They all think I’m way off in the head, but then again I don’t force them to listen to Gorguts either.
But why do you feel you have to interject a statement about popularity into a discussion about quality? It’s as if you feel that other people have better taste than you do.
My nit is the free-form bebop horn jazz, trumpets and saxes bouncing randomly all over. I just don’t get it, it feels like cars honking in a traffic jam and quickly stresses me out.
I had a roommate who was obsessed with this stuff, it was hell. I covered by torturing him with endless Sisters of Mercy playing.
If I understand your argument correctly, people suggest ALW produces mass-market trash for cash, and your counter argument is he has made a* bunch of cash*? Maybe this particular argument isn’t shutting people up for the reason you think it’s shutting people up.
I’ve long been disparaging of Andrew “Dice” Webber, but it’s been primarily for his cannibalism of others material. It seems distasteful. I’m certainly not educated enough in music theory to offer any substantial critique of his composing.
For me it was Dave Matthews. I’m not a fan and in high school I recall getting QUITE a bit of dirty looks for that one.
I’ve had one person come up to me and state that I was going to Hell and that my religion was crap and that I was going to hell, because ‘that’s the equivalent of what I just said to her’ (which was the fact that I did not like Dave Matthews Band). That one took me back. So now, I don’t really hate DMB, I just hate his fanatical fans that go to extremes to promote their love of Dave.
I think a fair number of artists I really enjoy I hated when I first heard them. It has a lot to do with what age I first heard them, what kind of mood I was in, etc.
I really hate Linkin Park and that nu metal shite with all of my heart. But they were on SNL not too long ago and I heard one song that I actually liked.
I typically can detect some modicum of talent in a musical piece, so even if I don’t like the genre particularly, I can find something of interest about the song.
Some artists irk me because their fans are so fucking evangelical. I know a lot of Rush fans that fall into this category. It’s like, “hey, if you listen to this one track, you’ll see how great they are.” No. I get that the members of Rush are talented. But Geddy Lee’s voice squicks me out, I hate the effects he uses on his bass, and I find the majority of their songs tedious. It’s doubtful that listening to Tom Sawyer for the 93rd time will change that (incidentally, a Rush song I do like).
Weber musicals seem to be 1 or maybe 2 decent songs with crap in between and great staging.
I can not get into country and western. It is bad rock and roll dumbed down. The girl singers are easy on the eyes though.
Rap is not music. It may be the protests sounds of a new generation. It may be about a life most of us would be happier not knowing about. But it is bad music.
So, you like jazz and country, but dislike the grateful dead? 
Same here.
**puly **- same question as **Ludovic **or you have the same POV as I do?
**Ludovic ** - yep. I could go into detail about what doesn’t work for me with the Dead, but that really isn’t the point. The country I favor - Hank Williams, Patsy Cline, Dwight Yoakam, Vince Gill, etc. - and the jazz I favor - Thelonius Monk, Miles Davis, Ben Webster, Bill Evans - I tend to come at from very different directions, so the fact that a band sits at an intersection of those styles doesn’t mean I will like them…
I’m pretty easy-going with my wife’s music and vice verca, the only thing we go to war over is Bjork. Usually in the car on a long drive. I recognise that the driver chooses the CD in the car - this is the law. But it’s a law that represents cruel and unusual punishment in the case of the Icelandic pixie.
My wife really idolises her as some kind of uniquely talented cross-disciplinary artist. I sort of agree with that as far as it goes, it’s just that music is not one of those talents. I find Bjork’s stuff extremely boring, paradoxically. She’s got her own voice but it just gets put over bland, anodyne music that I can’t stand to listen to, particularly in a car. I’d be prepared to let it ride but I get irritated by all the pseudery and chin-stroking used to try and explain away her shit sound.
Sorry for the ambiguity. I have the same POV as you. I don’t get the Dead. I like jazz (especially the more modal stuff) and I like old fashioned country & western. I just can’t do it. Even when I went through my Phish phase in college (sigh yes, I was into Phish briefly, not coincidentally, at the same time I discovered pot), I didn’t like the Dead.
This happened a lot in high school. Try explaining why The Beatles are better than Eminem. Sigh.
I had the same experience recently, in a similar fashion - I record Craig Ferguson’s Late, Late Show and it tends to start at a time where it gets the last part of Letterman’s show, often a musical artist’s performance. I heard a song that I thought was decent, looked up at the TV, and saw it was Fall Out Boy. Huh. I might have to give their latest work a listen.
Regarding Rush? I think I hate them just for putting “The Trees” on Rock Band 2, and I ended up having to sing that. WTF kind of drugs were you guys on when you wrote that? I’m practically a tree-hugger, but I thought that was a lame, awful song.
I heard that song for the first time on Rock Band 2, and I was in stitches: “So the maples formed a union/And demanded equal rights./‘The oaks are just too greedy;
We will make them give us light.’” This is Spinal Tap bad. Not only that, but I kept wanted to break into “Closer to the Heart” at the beginning of each verse.
You would hate me, then. I just don’t get jazz.
Mind you, I wouldn’t crinkle my nose. It actually pains me that I don’t get it. I have a Ph.D. in musicology. I have an appreciation for a wide variety of music. Challenging to simple. Shoenberg and Webern to Timberlake and Beyonce. I like a lot of country. I like rap. I get hooked on American Idol. I adore opera and love the symphony. I even like big band.
So here I am, surrounded by friends with impeccable musical tastes, whom I respect. And someone will ask me if I want to go to some jazz concert or to a jazz club. I duck my head and mutter, “Man, I’m sorry… maybe I’m just not cool enough down to the fiber of my soul… but no thanks. I just don’t get jazz. And I would just fidget in boredom through the whole thing.”
Buy **Kind of Blue **by Miles Davis, and listen to the drummer’s high hat to keep time, listen to the melodic *leitmotif’s *that define the structure of the song and treat the middle, improvised solo bits like a Chopin impromptu.
I know it is really not THAT easy, especially given your deep (much deeper than mine) musical schooling…but it was worth a try! 
This isn’t bad advice for getting into cool Jazz. My problem with people who say they don’t like Jazz is that there are too many forms of Jazz for that to be an accurate statement. It’s like saying you don’t like ANY country music or ANY rock and roll music only more. Heck, rivulus, you have already said you like Big Band, and that’s Jazz.
I suspect that much of the “jazz” you don’t like is actually crap modern “jazz” and free jazz, or atonal jazz. But who doen’t love the Getz/Gilberto Bossa Nova collaberations or the Latin Jazz stylings of Tito Puente? And I defy anyone with ears to tell me that the music on Brubeck’s Take Five is boring!
Um…so I guess the above is my reaction to people telling me they don’t like jazz. :o
I don’t really care, I’m not a hardcore jazz fan or anything. It just makes me sad when someone writes off a whole *very *diverse genre in a single sentence.
Good point, I like some jazz but I am not even sure what type it is. I know I enjoy good swing but there is some newer jazz I enjoy. However, I do not enjoy most of new and fusion jazz.
I was on an anime podcast for two years. I’ve seen a ton of anime. I’m a geek who plays computer games.
This does not mean that I like Japanese pop music. I don’t. I really, really don’t. I don’t really like American pop music, either, but at least I can understand the lyrics. That doesn’t hold true with the Japanese stuff.
I get skeptical when people say that they hate all rap. I pretty much assume they mean, “all the rap that plays on top 40 and MTV,” though; I’m pretty rock-oriented, and there are still rap artists that I love.