You have completely misread this whole thread.
He’s not “defending” the comments, he’s pointing out that they’re not an incitement to violence.
He is scum. He’s admitting he’s a psychopath restrained only by an imaginary choke-chain. But he’s not inciting violence. He is, in his own twisted way, speaking out against violence - he’s just too stupid to direct his attention to violence that actually exists.
You may be right. I may be right. You won’t know unless you try?
Do you know what elevatorgate is? A few years ago a female Atheist blogger gave an account of a fellow Atheist at an Atheist conference, he was hitting on her while they were both alone on an elevator. He’d had a couple drinks too many and she had already told him in the bar politely that she didn’t want to leave the bar with him or go outside to talk or whatever advance he had made. When she left a little while later he followed her to the elevator and asked her if she wanted to come to his room for coffee.
Now, she has never released the individuals name and her original comments were just a side note in the middle of a larger blog… ie, hey guys when a girl says she’s not interested… she’s not interested. At first no one even really paid attention to her comments, it wasn’t what that blog entry was specifically dedicated too. But a couple months later another blogger picked up on it and it started this whole big movement about how (some) Atheist guys thought they were all moral and correct but they were really chauvinistic in ways they perhaps did not recognize. Think of the analogy of a female working in an engineering company in the 1980’s and not being taken seriously… or comments of “Hey baby, I love your dress”…
Sorry to make such a long story. The point is this event sparked a HUGE debate in the Atheist community and kind of split up the movement. Now we have (not as a direct result of that event but as an example of it)… now we have Atheism + (Atheism Plus) which says that we want to be Atheists and also be moral and not be sexist or racist and we want to preserve the planet and look out for economic equality… etc. So yes there are some Atheists who want to be rude or act in some negative manner and they disregard any criticism from fellow Atheists. But what is the alternative? Not to be critical?
Isn’t there a line from Shakespeare about “I think thou doth protest too much”?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_lady_doth_protest_too_much,_methinks
Maybe. I trust your opinion. No offense, I still think I’m right but if you are pointing out a flaw in my reasoning I very well could be wrong.
I don’t understand that comment.
Referring back to post #5, about moderate Christian leaders that supposedly do speak out against far-right Christian loudmouths that seem to represent Christianity in the media today.
You seem pretty reasonable so I’ll respond. Bricker didn’t approve of the comments, but rather pointed out a logical fallacy within them, and a parallel fallacy within the OP of this thread. I’d recommend you reread them carefully if you think they support the comments of the Duck Dynasty guy.
Ok, ummm… I’ve not had much sleep, like 5 or 6 hours in the last 48 hours. I’m just going to go ahead and apologize to Bricker for trying to paint him as being a negative person.
Wait, don’t go overboard. Bricker IS a negative person. 
“Supposedly speak out”…
I’m sure there are plenty of people speaking out but they don’t get the same exposure in the media. It’s the way of the world.
“We are sorry to report that C. S Lewis and Aldous Huxley have died today. In other news the President of the United States has been assassinated…”
Here’s Bob with the weather
Thank you. WTF does “white” have to do with any of this?
“Moderate” Christianity does not incite violence. It might sound hockey, but true Christianity teaches love. In that way, the moderate Christians have been doing their job by doing their job. Arguing with a moron is not going to do anything good for Christianity. Doing Christian things will do good for Christianity. Didn’t anyone see that the Presbyterian Church will allow individual churches to perform Same Sex Marriages? Hasn’t anyone heard Pope Francis imploring us to help the poor? Or do we all have such a short, or selective, memory that these things don’t register? The Pope has been dropping bombshells since he was named, and he has many admirers among atheists, agnostics, and believers. That is what fights this kind of ignorance. And that is what the moderate Christians have been doing.
But has His Holiness specifically denounced Phil Robertson? If not, then the atheists are right and the Pope is just as bad as Hitler. Or something.
Who is asking them to?
It’s ironic that the OP uses a man - who makes his point in an awful manner - for the OP to make his point in an awful manner.
It’s interesting, though, that religious people still fail to understand atheists. Our ideology is actually generally quite simple. We don’t believe in a mythology that has no evidence to support it. That’s it. No, we’re not mad at God. No, we’re not pro-Satan. No, we aren’t incapable of telling right from wrong. It’s stunning how religious people are unable to grasp what atheism is.
I suspect it’s a defense mechanism. They know, on some level, that their views won’t hold up to scrutiny. And so they must, for the protection of their own vulnerable views, be unable to acknowledge and understand a person who gave religion that scrutiny and came away unimpressed.
They have to invent a reason that this person would turn a way from god, who they know obviously must be true (otherwise their whole world comes crumbling down) didn’t merely do the sane, rational, adult thing and throw out a world view with no evidence to support it. No, they have to come up with a reason to justify that person’s lack of devotion to god in a god that they’re very motivated to convince themselves exists. So you get the silly reasons like “you’re just angry at god” or “Satan has lead you astray” or simply “they’re evil” or other such nonsense, because their views are literally too weak to withstand the question “they took a look at my religion and found it uncompelling. Why is that?” - once they start to consider that, the whole house of cards comes falling down.
Also, there aren’t a lot of religious people standing up to defend atheists because by and large they really hate atheists. They hate atheists more than they hate followers of competing religions. Being an atheist, to them, is a character flaw on par with being a criminal or other extremely flawed and undesirable person. Any venom thrown their way, no matter how nonsensical, will tend to get a cheer more than any moderating reaction.
You’re making that sound a lot more innocuous than it is. Here is some discussion that covers that incident somewhat. Rebecca “Not wanting to hear about [my brand of] feminism is worse than rape threats” Watson is a continual shit-stirrer that tries to find new ways that she can be oppressed even if she has to make them up. There are already groups who are united by a premise and atheism who want to make the world a better place like secular humanism. Atheism+ is an attempt to hijack atheist and skeptical movement to promote an agenda of people who are professional victims who say “rape culture” “patriarchy” and “trigger warning” roughly 90 times a day. And I’m not talking about feminism - I would suspect the activist atheist community is overwhelmingly in favor of gender egalitarianism. This shit is the epitome of first world problems, a creation of all sorts of imagined slights and oppressions because their identity relies on being a perpetual victim. She uses the notoriety she’s earned in the community to push divisive, alienating shit that pisses people off and has nothing to do with the movement. She creates all sorts of discord and divides among what’s already a marginalized group.
I consider myself a religious person in that I believe in God, or at least, a god, and I never thought that way. Nor was I ever taught that by my parents. You’re full of fucking shit. I could not give less of a shit what you believe or don’t believe, just as long as you’re not a douchebag.
Oh, wow, some “religious person” who vaguely maybe sort of maybe believed in some sort of god once doesn’t hate atheists like devout religious people do. I guess countless polls and studies that show us things like atheists are trusted at the same level as rapists or that they face more electoral discrimination than any other ethnic or religious group as well as groups defined by character flaws such as those who have been caugh having an affair, that they are systematically discriminated against around the world or are the group that parents would least like their kids to marry.
No, all of the hatred, discrimination, children disowned by their parents, harassment, negative judgments, assumptions of immorality - all of those are irrelevant next to the opinions of someone who kinda maybe thought god might exist in some form once, therefore none of that exists.