ElvisL!ves and Der Trihs, off the top of my head. You could add the not dearly in the least departed Dio or Aldebaran to the list if we’re going back.
I’m no fan of Shodan, but we can’t pretend that there aren’t liberal posters who are as bad, if not worse, than him.
One wonders where they come from and how they even know about this board.
I knew getting the board indexed on Google was a bad idea.
Not really – the overwhelming majority of the “trolls” (in quotes because they use a ridiculously loose definition) kicked out of the FReakshow are actually conservatives advocating a nuclear strike on Eastasia after failing to get the memo that Eurasia is the enemy du jour.
Because they can get away with it.
Besides, they’re not trolling the liberals here - they are trolling the conservatives. That’s what the OP aked for - a place where liberals trolli conservatives with “childish responses, gotchas, and holier-than-thou smugness”. Childish responses? Der Trihs, **Lobohan, ELvisL1ves, ** et al. Gotchas? Everyone. Holier-than-thou smugness? BrainGlutton and everyone else.
I mean - come on.
Regards,
Shodan
Don’t post drunk, **Shodan **and Hamlet.
Don’t ever change, ElvisL1ves - if you ever developed any insight at all half the charm of this place would vanish.
Regards,
Shodan
As a lib myself, I’ll say that on my facebook feed I do see stuff just as bad as what I see coming from some conservatives. Generally it’s in comments on facebook rather than in articles getting shared, though, so I have no links to provide.
What I want to know is, where are the trolls with an excellent command of English, good composition skills and familiarity with the standard rules of punctuation?
Liberals are just better people I guess
Apparently not on the SDMB -
Some of y’all make it too easy.
Regards,
Shodan
Pretty sure resident conservatives will disagree, but IMHO, I find liberals tend to be more intellectual. It takes more to stimulate smarter people. Trolling doesn’t do it.
As a fellow liberal, I think that smacks a bit of “No True Scotsman” fallacy.
The average SDMB liberal imagines “typical liberals” as fairly smart and reflective people, if inclined to get pissy at times. When we hear of a crazy antivaxxer who thinks corporations in general are in league with Big Pharma to crush women’s and minorities’ civil rights and hasten the post-climate-change apocalypse, we don’t think “fellow liberal”, we think “wackjob”. But in fact, such a person may in fact align with a number of liberal policy positions and reliably vote liberal, so that’s a recognized part of the image of “liberals” as perceived by non-liberals.
Similarly, the established SDMB conservatives are likely to think of conservatives in general as intelligent and principled people as opposed to the flailing right-wing trolls the OP speaks of, whom they consider drooling outliers. From the liberals’ point of view, though, the trolls “look like” conservatives just as much as the more elite right wing of the Dope does.
Kimstu’s absolutely right. My wife’s yoga-teaching, non-vaccinating, spacey hippie type friends get lumped in with my buddy the lawyer who’s a sort of activist for social justice, but who goes in for absolutely none of the crunchy, hippie crap. To the rather reactionary, and non-reflective conservatives of my acquaintance, there’s not a whit of difference between them.
Just like the way another friend who’s a rational, reasonable guy who just mostly wants to keep the money he earns, and wants the Government to only spend it on things that he considers vital, gets lumped in with raving loons like my brother-in-law’s dumb-ass hillbilly brother-in-law, who thinks the UN is a conspiracy to take away American sovereignty, and that (no shit) emissions controls and gas taxes are a plot by the government to bankrupt country people so that they can have their land taken and given to big business.
Don’t ask me why that reminds me of this:
At any rate, I’ll settle for being “all right.”
By that definition, you’re also a troll.
Isn’t what Stephen Colbert does liberal trolling?
Trolling is an art. The guys who flame out and get banned or found out are amateurs. You don’t notice the master craftsmen controlling entire discussions while seeming to be above the fray. They know how to push people’s buttons without being blatant. Though I’ve noticed they prefer other venues nowadays, like twitter or tumblr.
It’d be straight forward to troll this place from the left, which I’ve seen a couple times but they didn’t last long. The SDMB isn’t particularly lib. Mostly vanilla Democratic, believers in capitalism and the American way.
You find trolls on forums of views they oppose. Liberals find conservative trolls on liberal forums. Conservatives find liberal trolls on conservative forums.
Conservatives don’t care to spend time on liberal forums - why would they? so they don’t see conservative trolls.
Liberals don’t care to spend time on conservative forums - why would they? so they don’t see liberal trolls.
That being said, sometimes “trolling” isn’t trolling. If someone expresses an unpopular opinion - however respectful or genuine - he or she may be labeled a troll. Simply because the opinion incites anger, by its very nature.