Which baseball games do you want to see?

Congratulations! You are the winner of baseball’s ChronoPass contest of 2402! You have won the coveted ChronoPass, which allows you to travel back in time and take a seat in the stands of any 15 historical Major League baseball games from the 1876-2001 seasons (including postseason and All-Star - excluding exhibition games).

Of course, there is one rule. You cannot do anything to alter the course of any historical event. You cannot alert George Brett that Billy Martin knows he’s using an illegal bat. You can’t tell Merkle to make sure he steps on second base. You can’t even tell Ray Chapman to duck. You can’t tell Ed Delahanty not to get himself kicked off the train later that night. You certainly cannot tell Chuck Dressen not to bring in Ralph Branca to pitch to Thompson.

That said, what games (up to 15) do you want to see?
My list (in no particular order)

Oct 15, 1986
Game 6 of NLCS Mets vs. Astros
The game dominated by the man who didn’t even play in it.
The Mets had a 3-2 lead in the Series. They lost games 1 and 4 to Mike Scott, who allowed only one run in eighteen innings pitched. The Mets knew that if they lost Game 6, they were going to have to face Scott in Game 7; and if that happened, the series was as good as over. The Mets had to win Game 6. However, it’s looking bad for the Mets. Going into the top of the 9th, the Mets are down 3-0. However, they rally back and put three up on the board to tie the game. The Astros fail to score in the bottom of the inning and the game goes into extra innings for the second day in a row (Game 5 went 12 innings). The game continues scoreless until the Mets push a run across in the top of the 14th. The Astros respond with a home run by Billy Hatcher. The game presses on. The Mets push through 3 more runs in the top of the 16th to seemingly put the game away. However, the Astros put two more on the board in the bottom of the inning, but leave runners stranded to end one of the most exciting games I ever saw and send the Mets to the World Series. Even though the Astros lost, Mike Scott still won the series MVP.

Jul 4, 1939
Yankees vs. Senators
The Yankees split a doubleheader with the Senators, but it’s not the games I’m interested in here. The day is Lou Gehrig day at Yankee Stadium. Lou Gehrig, dying of the disease that would bear his name, said his farewell to Yankee fans. His uniform number (4) is retired – the first person in professional sports to have his uniform number retired. From all reports, there wasn’t a dry eye in the place when he delivered his “Luckiest Guy” speech. I still get a lump in my throat when I hear it today.

May 1, 1920
Dodgers vs. Braves
A marathon 26 inning game that ended in a 1-1 tie. What’s even more remarkable about the game is that the starting pitchers --Leon Cadore and Joe Oeschger went the entire way for both teams.

Oct 3, 1951 - National League Playoff - Game 3
Dodgers vs. Giants
The famous “shot heard around the world” capping the Giants remarkable 1951 comeback.

Apr 8, 1975
Dodgers vs. Braves
Hank Aaron hits his second home run of the year off Al Downing. :smiley:

May 25, 1935
Braves vs. Pirates
Babe Ruth is playing in the last week of his career. He forty, fat and can no longer play. However, at Pittsburgh’s Forbes Field, the Babe has one last burst of glory. On that day, he hits three home runs, the last one going out of the stadium, the only person to ever hit one out of Forbes Field.

Sep 29, 1960
Red Sox vs. Orioles
Ted Williams hits a home run in the final at-bat of his career. It’s not like he can’t play anymore. That was his 29th of the season. However, he had already announced that he was hangin’ 'em up after the season.

Apr 18, 1940
Indians vs. White Sox
Bob Feller pitches a no hitter on Opening Day.

Jul 10, 1934
Second All Star Game - American League vs. National League
Carl Hubbell, starting for the National League, strikes out Ruth, Gehrig and Fox to stop a two-on no out rally in the first. Then he strikes out Al Simmons and Joe Cronin to start the second.

Oct 8, 1956
Yankees vs. Dodgers - World Series Game 5
Don Larsen’s World Series perfect game. I want to see if the last pitch to Dale Mitchell really was a strike.

October 14, 1976
Yankees vs. Royals (sorry, Chaim)
Chris Chambliss’ home run in the bottom of the ninth off Mark Littell sends the Yankees back to the World Series for the first time in thirteen years.

July 4-5, 1985
Mets vs. Braves
In what was truly a surreal game, the Mets beat the Braves. The game lasted 19 innings AND had two rain delays. Twice the Braves rallied in extra innings to tie the game. In the bottom of the 18th, with two outs, the batter was relief pitcher Rick Camp, a lifetime .060 hitter. Camp had never had an extra-base hit in his career. However, the Braves are out of position players, so Camp has to bat. With two strikes on him, Camp hits a home run to tie it up, stunning everyone in the ballpark. The Mets put five more runs on the board in the top of the 19th. The Braves responded with two more in the bottom of the inning, but who should come up as the tying run in the bottom of the inning with two outs? Rick Camp. You can’t write a better script than this! Unfortuantely, this time Camp goes down on strikes as the game ends at 3:55 am. Keith Hernandez hit for the cycle in this game too. What’s more, the Braves had promised Fourth of July fireworks after the game. So, at 4AM, they set them off. This resulted in lots of Atlanta residents calling their local police precints thinking that the city was being bombed!

Aug 19, 1951
Browns vs. Tigers
In the second game of a double-header, a 3’7" midget named Eddie Gaedel comes to bat for the Browns. Tiger’s pitcher Bob Cain and catcher Bob Swift confer for fifteen minutes on how to pitch to Gaedel. It does no good. Gaedel walks on four pitches, all high.

May 26, 1959
Pirates vs. Braves
Harvey Haddix pitches 12 perfect innings for the Pirates, but loses the game in the 13th on an error, intentional walk, and a home run which turned into a double when the batter passed a runner on the basepaths. Has to rank as the worst “hard luck” loss of all time.

Oct 3, 1947
Yankees vs. Dodgers - World Series Game 4
The “pre-Don Larsen” game. Bill Bevins of the Yankees loses a no-hitter in the ninth inning to a Cookie Lavagetto hit. He also ended up losing the game. Interestingly, this is the final major league game for both Bevins and Lavagetto.

Zev Steinhardt

So.

You…uh…like baseball, huh?

I want to go to the July 4, 1939, game, so I can cut out and go to the World’s Fair and see the World of Tomorrow exhibit. Maybe Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland will be there that day!

Well, the Dodger/Giant game is nice, but you forgot the Called Shot game… did he point to CF?

The Merkle game.

Podres beats the Yanks for only Dodger championship in Brooklyn, 1955

First game at Yankee stadium, 1923

(can’t we please please please alter history just a little? I’d love to prevent Jeffrey Meier from stealing a game from Oakland, putting the Yanks in the WS? What a mess!)

  1. bums vs. Giants-Shot Heard 'Round the World-nuff said.

  2. Dave Dravecky’s amazing comeback after battling cancer.

  3. **Opening Day (96?) Giants vs. ??? Grateful Dead members sing the national anthem. Giants STAY in San Francisco. Champange in the bay area. Threats of lawsuits in St. Petersburg. ha ha ha ha! I got to see this one, but I want to see it again :wink:

  4. I’d like to see a game at Tiger Stadium…never got to see it before they tore it down. Maybe the Eddie Gaedel incident.

  5. I’d like to see the game…if it ever really happened, where the Chicago Cubs- in the summer of 1908 for an exhibition game against all-stars from the Iowa Baseball Confederacy, an amateur league team. I’m pretty sure it didn’t happen. But if it did, I’d like to see it.

A most memorable game for me indeed. I was undergoing a job interview at the owner’s home. We were taking a brief break and walked into the playroom with the tv on showing the game. We decided to watch for what we thought were the few minutes to finish. We then got totally immersed in the game; beers appeared and we hung out whoopin’ and hollarin’ until the wonderful conclusion.

Of course, I got the job.

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Actually, it was Baltimore, not Oakland.

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Actually, that would have been nice, but it was sad in that he broke his arm in his next start and had to retire for good.

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How about the game in 1912 when the Tigers struck in support of Ty Cobb? They got a bunch of college and sandlot players to play the game. They lost 24-2. The pitcher, Al Travers, still holds the record for the most runs given up in a game.

Never hoida it. That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, of course.

Zev Steinhardt

Well, off the top of my head, Games 6 and 7 of the 1975 World Series.

1951 National League playoff game – The Shot Heard Round the World

1954 World Series – The Catch, just to see if it really was as incredible as they say.

1955 – The Championship-winning game for Brooklyn

1969 World Series – the Shoe-polish game.

July 4, 1939 (?) – The tribute to Lou Gehrig. I don’t care about the game, but I’d love to see that great man honored, and hear his speech.

Okay, here are a few…

Game 3 of the 1980 A.L. Championship series, sweet revenge after 3 years (sorry, Zev!) (;))

I agree with lurkernomore about wanting to see the Called Shot game to determine whether the Babe really did or didn’t.

Game 7 of the 1991 World Series. 10-inning 1-run pitchers duel, World Championship on the line.

The infamous Disco Demolition night at Comiskey Park

I’d love to have been in the stands at any game where Bill Veeck, as owner, pulled some strange shenanigans which actually involved the crowd. Supposedly he gave away awkward-to-handle booby prizes, like a big block of ice or a dozen live crabs or similar things. Can’t point to a specific game, though, only read about it in his autobiography.

Also would have loved to be involved in the game where he, as St. Louis Browns owner made the fans manager for a night.

Agree with Zev about the Harvey Haddix 12-perfect-inning game and the Lou Gehrig farewell game.

Two words: Bucky Dent

Also, the Yankees won something (the 1977 ALCS?) with Chris Chambliss hitting a walk off home run. I would’ve liked to be there because something like 100 people piled out of the stands and ran the bases with him.

Cleveland’s ten cent beer night would’ve been fun too, as would the Armando Benitez-started Yankees-Orioles brawl.

Just a precursor to my reply – I have yet to read the actual games of Zev or anybody else in this thread. I didn’t want to influence my thinking. I picked 11 games, leaving off some that I am sure others will put but I want to get a list of games that cover the spectrum of greatness and interest. I’ll save my other 4 and pick and choose from games that others list. Without further ado, and in chronological order:

September 23, 1908 – Merkle’s boner
Like most of my choices, I picked this game not because of the final score, but because of events represented in the game. As a baseball groupie, I have always been fascinated with this game and the man who was castigated for years following it. Merkle was a darn fine player, but the lore of this game is just too interesting to pass up.

October 14, 1908 – Game 5 of the World Series
Cubs win the game against the Reds 2-0 and the Series 4-1. As a lifelong Cubs fan, I know the futility of waiting for a World Series, so I want to go back and watch Tinker, Evers, and Chance win one for my beloved Cubbies.

October 2, 1919 – Game 2 of the World Series
Yup, the Black Sox. No, this wasn’t the deciding game of the Series, but for all intents and purposes, this might be the best one to watch to see if I could tell if the fix was on. Statwise, the Sox dominated the game but Lefty Williams still lost the game 4-2 versus the Reds. It would fascinate me to know the outcome and scandal and listen to the crowd and see the players giving the game and series away.

October 10, 1924 – Game 7 of the World Series
My favorite player is Walter Johnson. I will always vouch for him as the best pitcher to ever step on the mound. He put up amazing numbers on horrible teams. It seems only right that I pick the time he finally was able to carry his team to the title. His team won the game 4-3 against the Giants and Johnson came out of the bullpen to pitch 4 scoreless innings (9, 10, 11, and 12) to get the win.

October 1, 1932 – Game 3 of the World Series
Wow, I am heavy on World Series games. Yet another Cubs adventure, but this time I choose the game just to watch for Babe Ruth’s called shot. Nothing interests me more than seeing the truth about one of the games great stories with my own eyes.

June 12, 1939 – Cooperstown, New York
I don’t care if it isn’t a game. It’s my time machine dang it. This would be the grand opening ceremony of the Hall of Fame. I just want to go to see the beginnings and mingle with some of the greats.

July 4, 1939 – Yankees vs. Senators
Lou Gehrig day. I promise you I would be a basket case at this game considering what we now know of this disease and how much it must have affected the last years of his career. This man was basically dying while putting up insane numbers and always being in the middle of Murderer’s Row. After the game I probably couldn’t tell you the score, the opposing team, or even the weather. But, I could say that I saw what was probably the most bittersweet celebration/retirement/finality in sports.

April 15, 1947 – Jackie Robinson’s major league debut
Not so much for the game, although watching Jackie play would surely be a delight, but just to be in the midst of a crowd watching and reacting to such a monumental and important historical shift in culture.

October 3, 1951 – NL playoffs game 3
“The shot heard around the world.” But, I would have to have a radio with me because I can’t imagine this event without also hearing “The Giants win the pennant!”

October 18, 1977 – Game 6 of the World Series
Reggie Jackson homers 3 times. Not a fan of the Yanks or of Reggie, but to see such a power display in such a huge situation would make my jaw drop.

October 26, 1986 – Game 6 of the World Series
Bill Buckner has the ball roll between his legs. The emotional ride of the game would be a blast, but I want to see this in person, because as long as the Red Sox fans continue to suffer the curse of the Bambino, Cubs fans aren’t quite as alone in the world.

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That was 1976. That was one of the games on my list.

Zev Steinhardt

Fun, fun, fun, zev.

I’ll miss Tiger Stadium. Here are a some other possibilities:

July 13, 1971. All-star game, Tiger Stadium. Reggie Jackson hits a 520 foot home run off the light standard above the right field roof. The game also featured home runs by Johnny Bench, Hank Aaron, Roberto Clemente, Frank Robinson, and Harmon Killebrew.

April 15, 1983. Milt Wilcox comes within 1 out of a perfect game against the Chicago White Sox, before the 27th batter, Jerry Hairston, hits a pinch hit single. I remember this as opening day (I was 12 and watched it on a bad black & white TV), but I’m not sure that was right, since Jack Morris seems like he would have been the opening day starter.

Sometime in 1968. Is it one game or one day, zev? I wonder if there was a double header pitched by Denny McLain and Mickey Lolich this season. If not, I’d take games 1 and 2 of the world series that year. Game 1 was Bob Gibson vs. Denny McLain (Gibson strikes out 17 in a 4-0 shutout); and in game 2, Mickey Lolich evened the series and hit his only career home run. Both games were in Busch Stadium, though.

Now that I think about it, that game was in St. Louis, not Detroit.

Zev Steinhardt

Ahhh, that 2614 inning classic. I think it did happen.

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If I had to pick a game from that WS, I would have gone with Game 3. Dickie Kerr (a rookie) pitched his heart out, throwing a three-hit shutout while his team was trying to lose the game!

Zev Steinhardt

I stand corrected. It was not opening day or the Tiger’s home opener. It wasn’t even in Detroit, it was at Comiskey Park. And I wasn’t 12, I was 11. :rolleyes:

Your description of that game reminds me of the game where Milt Pappas came within one strike of a perfect game but lost it on a controversial called fourth ball on the 27th batter. He ended up with the no-hitter.

Zev Steinhardt

10/16/69, IIRC - game 5. I was at this one.:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

For what it’s worth, the old girl still stands. Alone. Deserted. No fans walking through her corridors. No crack of a Tiger bat.

Just like Comerica Park. :frowning:

stv