It’s really not smart to bring in fast food to a discussion of cuisine.
Love St Johns! I work round the corner.
If that’s all the Canadian cuisine you can think of, you haven’t tried hard enough.
Just off the top of my head I can think of meat pies, and pig’s legs and meatball stews as traditional Canadian cuisine. At least that’s the kind of dishes my family makes or used to make near Christmas and I’ve been wanting to try making them for some time. In the winter I usually make pumpkin pie and pumpkin soup; you may not think of them as especially Canadian dishes, but pumpkins do grow here and pumpkin pie at least I think is quite traditional. Oh, and we shouldn’t forget the whole sugar shack menu; it’s that time of the year after all.
To this we can add the regional cuisines of other parts of Canada, which I suppose may be influenced by different European and American cuisines. And if you want to include what the Inuit eat, you might as well include traditional Indian cuisines (dried and smoked meats, perhaps?)
No, there is no lack of Canadian cuisine(s).
We have a number of Hawaiian fast food places around here. Now, they are fast food, but they make the product of McDonalds look like it was cooked by Alice Waters.
My exposure to Filipino food consists of what was available at a mom and pop grocery in Oakland, but I wouldn’t exclude it from the running.
When my daughter was living in Tubingen, she complained about the absence of fresh food in the grocery. But from the perspective of a Californian even the selection in Pennsylvania in the winter is awful. Good cuisine means doing the best with what you have, not how closely you mimic food available in another region. Even if the produce situation is not as good as you say, I can’t knock German food for not including fresh pineapple. I kind of liked it, myself.
I went to Tubingen when I was 15 years old, fell in love with the area and the beer.
It is a very nice part of the world.
And I agree with your definition of good cuisine.
+1
Damndest thing.
Fruit and vegetables, actually. And my point is that most likely you didn’t know where to go. Like, for example, the farmers markets.
I’d go…but then I am Dutch, of course.
I do want to say with respect to the above point, as well as as the rest of the thread that we seem to be talking about two different things here:
- The national cuisine.
See above examples for Dutch, shepherd’s pie, fish and chips etc for English, bacon and cabbage for Irish and so forth.
and
- How well can you eat in a certain country?
For example, many people have said that you can find Chinese in Irish country villages, good curries in England. In which case I’d say The Netherlands have quite a good choice of restaurants, particularly the Indonesian dishes which have infiltrated The Netherlands in the same way curry has Britain: Bami, Gado Gado, Nasi Goreng. Yum!
This is a distinction worth making, I’ve spent several holidays in the beachside town of Wassenaar in the Netherlands. It is only a modest little place but again the quality of the ingredients (particularly fish and fresh vegetables) and the supermarket (C1000) is quite stunning.
I can’t make any real comment on traditional Dutch cuisine as we mostly make things from scratch but certainly the indonesian Rijsttafel is a widely available, cheap and particularly delicious ethnic alternative.
Hey, what’s that one Filipino “delicacy”? The almost-developed bird embryo? I would definitely pass on that.
There’s been some slagging of yak butter. I don’t know if I’ve tried that – I think I may have, added to some Tibetan tea – but I do like yak cheese. I stock up on it in Kathmandu.
I can attest to it tasting like warm greasy sea water.
Re: Filipino: I only go to filipino weddings for the pansit. ![]()
God help you if you don’t have real limes. :mad:
Sorry about that. ![]()
Imho, the best threads at IMDB are when some country or race reacts to stereotypes and/or gets defensive. I purposely tried to start a fight between USA and UK just to make an interesting thread.
USA! USA! USA!
And, this is somehow different in other countries?
I quoted you just because I think IMDB’ers like to think their thoughts actually mattered to somebody else. What I quoted simply shows how empty the idea you have is.
BACON!
BACON!
BACON!
BACON!
Are you drunk?
BACON! z
bacon!
Having lived in both Nigeria and England in my teen years, I must say these two countries are in contest for the title. Traditional Nigerian food (more the southern variety than the northern one) is …well… none too good…
This being increased by the fact that most Nigerian cooks’ knowledge of Western cuisine is based on English cuisine. So you got a choice between some really unsavory local cuisine completed by some horrible English cuisine.
The expat families there were always trying to get cooks from Benin (French trained, and usually really good cooks, restaurant-level for a good deal of those) over any Nigerian one. I can assure you when your only comfort during the rain season is some mean looking sponge cake, you get to the point where you really wonder if life is worth all the trouble.
I do miss pub cooking though, it’s been a while since I had the opportunity to eat a good kidney pie.
As an American I’m not proud of all of the horrible crap you mentioned.
I think they’re just concentrated in certain areas. Leytonstone, Leyton, and Stratford are full of Nigerian restaurants. Sometimes there are several of them within a few doors of each other on the same street.
Is that a Nigerian dish?