Does that not work the other way just as well, though?
Men don’t need much money because tons of men without much money have wives.
Women don’t need to adhere to a standard of beauty because tons of women who don’t conform to it have husbands.
The female standard of beauty is not just “thin”, it’s young and thin. So yeah, being rich is easier unless you are rich enough to invent a time machine or stop aging.
Actually it didn’t really occur to me that the OP is equating female beauty primarily with thinness, and also implying that the standard of thinness is unrealistic. Or at least implying other people think that.
But whoever thinks it, I think they’re wrong.
I think there is a certain body proportion guys generally like but women of various weights can have that proportion (…until you get to obese). e.g. I think many men would enjoy the results of googling “plus size lingerie models”, but far fewer women would like to see fat men in their underpants.
And if you look at the women in “lads mags” they are often average to curvy. Meanwhile the pin-ups in womens magazines (and increasingly, Hollywood actors) are often stacked.
If the point is that men weight aesthetics more than women in choosing a partner…yeah, pretty much. But that doesn’t make it an unrealistic standard of beauty.
It’s certainly true that women are able to find happy fulfilling relationships in spite of not being thin. I think the bigger question is do those women still feel a pressure to lose weight and look better? One would hope that at least it’s not her husband pressuring her, unless he’s being really supportive and trying to cook better or get active and have fun exercising. Realistically though she probably gets a little bit of pressure from her husband, and is definitely confronted by a society that expects her to lose weight and get thin.
Men, on the other hand, don’t get that as far as I’ve seen. If you’re a man and you make a comfortable living you’re pretty much set in that department.
One way to look at it - there’s this ‘standard of beauty’ in America and I think most people can picture that standard pretty clearly. Most people have a modified standard they consider beautiful that will differ slightly. Is there a standard of wealth that represents a man with enough wealth to be a hot date?
I don’t think that even exists for the vast majority of women. I’ve known young women whose standards included things like, he has to own a car and have a full time job. Any job. I think most men would consider that a pretty damn low standard, especially if the alternative is to be treated like a woman and suddenly need to lose 50 pounds.
I realize there are some highly materialistic women, but I’ve never personally met one who demanded a man meet a standard, like owning a luxury car or vacation home or really anything like that for that matter.
Whenever I look at plus size models, it’s because I’m reading some article about how someone thinks it is insane that the very large woman who was photographed is labeled as plus size. It’s amazing to me that people are so disconnected from reality that they can’t see that plus size models are unquestionably plus sized.
More specifically to your point, far fewer women would like to see any man in their underpants than men would like to see women. Even if you ditched the big people and got a line up of hotties, men are going to be more excited to see the hot women than the women are to see the hot men.
You could probably even ask the women if they’d rather see the half naked fat men or the half naked fat women and get more women looking at women than women looking at men. Not a lot of men are worth ogling absent some additional emotional connection.
To be clear, I did concede that women are still under greater pressure than men, I was more decrying the idea that women have pressure to look a certain way or maintain a particular body image, but men do not. It’s not an either-or thing, that by me saying men face the issue too, that the struggles women face in that area don’t exist or are somehow lessened. My point was simply that body image issues exist for both genders, again, moreso for women, but they’ve been increasing for men in recent years, particularly for younger men.
I’ll say this- it’s probably easier to get thin than get rich, but it’s considerably harder to stay thin than it is to stay rich.
Plenty of people have lost significant amounts of weight at one time or another, only to gain most or all of it back (and sometimes then some) later. By contrast, riches-to-rags stories are notable due to how uncommon they are.
The inspiration for the OP was a comic complaining about having to starve herself to fit into skinny jeans, and how much easier it is for men because all they need is money and a woman will fuck him. It’s worth pointing out this this was a total throw-away line and not the focus of her act at all. (The skinny jeans bit was a centerpiece; the thing about men having it easy was the throwaway.)
Well since you say “excited”, I have to dispute even that.
Here is shanghai there are plenty of events where there are female models. And some (admittedly fewer) where there are male models.
But the male model events need significantly more security. And if the guys are topless, the women go absolutely nuts.
And it goes partly to the point I was just making. The female models don’t look that different from girls you see on the subway every day. But the musculature of the male models is less common.
Fat dudes without money can get women. They just need game.
There are men who are chubby chasers. Maybe not a solid foundation for a LTR, but fat gals can get lovin’ too.
I’m not sure how the conventional dynamics work in places where everyone is fat. I guess the high status fat guys seek the thinnest fat women? You see plenty of obese couples out there, but then again I’ve known some porker guys with little game who have laughably unrealistic expectations on what sort of women they “deserve.” I guess at some point reality dawns on them and they settle.
Some of the research into biological causes is interesting. But fundamentally, these problems didn’t exist until the late 1970s. Originally it was mostly focused geographically to America. And in the last decade it’s been spreading around the world.