Why, yes, yes I do. And I am white.
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[/QUOTE] Nice!Drinking is highly under-rated. Just sayin’. …
…And you posted this?!
So to start, a handful of racist incidents occurred under the influence of alcohol. Then you found a paper that found that people with blue eyes are slightly more likely to become alcoholics. And then you jumped from there to…
…I don’t even know how to describe that mess.
Prohibition failed because demand for drugs is largely inelastic and laws prohibiting a drug anyone can brew up in their bathtub from common food ingredients are pretty much completely impossible to enforce in any meaningful way. Meanwhile it was a huge boon to organized crime and it became clear (although not nearly quickly enough) that these laws were a colossal failure. Not because of white people desperately needing their booze, or whatever it is you’re vaguely implying. :rolleyes: And the comparisons to slavery are just complete nonsense. Like… what are you even talking about?
So you’re straight. What does that have to do with your OP, Roderick Femm’s post or anything else?
As every one seems to have missed this, blue eyes and light colored skin arrived in Europe 1000’s of years apart and they are not related at all. In fact blue eyes existed for at least 5000 years before the steppe pastoralists invaded bringing lighter skin shades.
The entire rise of agriculture is probably closely tied to beer making,
But remember that our “races” are also social constructs that are poorly defined and not backed by any real biological basis. Our concept of race is a cultural phenomenon, with very real implications for those who do not have the prefered admixtures.
When making any claim that uses ‘race’ as a justifier that doesn’t depend primarily on cultural and socioeconomic causes you will have a very high standard of evidence to meet as there is no biological basis for our concept of ‘race’. (once again the effects are real, just like money which is also a social construct).
A sushi restaurant we like is BYOB. Once our waiter commented on the wine we were drinking (a pretty label or something). I offered him a taste, but he declined, saying, “No thank you. Chinese people do not drink wine”.
It was kind of strange for him to speak for an entire people, but who was I to argue.
That is strange. Especially if he was Japanese.
My Go-To sushi guys are Mexican.
It’s a sushi place owned and operated by Chinese peeps. Sushi Boat for two, with soup and salad $60. BYOB with no corkage fee. WooHoooo!!!
ETA: sorry about the hijack, I’m drunk.
Most of the Japanese eating places around where I live are owned/run by Koreans.
If a Korean restaurant serves ribs and calls itself Seoul Food, is that cultural appropriation? Even they don’t have a liquor license?
Regards,
Shodan
I used to work with a youth group, and the kids were predominantly Chinese-American. One of the kids aged into a leadership role, and when we adults were out and were enjoying adult beverages, he always declined. He said he was “allergic” to alcohol, and that most Asians were, as well. I never investigated, but I suppose there may be some percentage of the Asian population that cannot handle alcohol. Your waiter is maybe also “allergic” and may assume his issues are more universal than they actually are.
I think he is making up that “most Asians are, as well”. That makes no sense. Ever been drinking with people from Japan? Some of them can really drink you under the table, if you’re not careful.
It’s actually a real thing with East Asian populations primarily( it seems to have originated in Chinese populations ). It is just not universal and the impact varies depending on the exact genetics. My Chinese sister-in-law can’t have more than a drink or two without flushing bright red and she always sticks to small amounts of relatively weak plum wine to avoid any further adverse effects. One of her half-Caucasian daughters is similarly vulnerable to booze( though a bit less so ).
No actually, I’m talking about distillation. Simple fermentation has been proven in China in 7000 BCE. They started distilling around 0 CE I’m away from my books right now so I’ll just link to a wikipedia article.
I really don’t know where you are getting your info from. Most alchemists were preforming simple distillation throughout the dark ages and like i said earlier there were published treisties on water distillation around 200 CE. The creation of distilled spirits isn’t complicated I’m not sure why you think it took so long.
There are distilled liquors that don’t come from grains. Brandy is distilled from wine, rum comes from sugar cane, and vodka can be distilled from potatoes (and some other non-grain sources).
If you find them I’d be curious. But the above cite does not back you up. I’ve seen no cites yet that claim true distillation of alcoholic beverages had been firmly established prior to the 12th century in China. Here’s the wiki on alcohol in China ( actually on double-checking the exact same cite is used in your wider wiki article ):
Distillation may have been practiced in China as early as the later Han but the earliest evidence so far discovered has been dated to the Jin and Southern Song.
We’re talking here about the widespread distribution and consumption of distilled alcoholic beverages. Not when distillation as a technique was first discovered.
Too late to edit:
I should reiterate that this is just our normal SDMB pedantry on both our parts, because I don’t think that there is anything especially profoundly different about distilled spirits. Wine will get you just as drunk, you don’t need whiskey. I had just been noting above that the OP was approximately correct on the that one minor point. Certainly in Europe, land of the blue-eyes caucasians.