If it is recognised by the International Cort, everyone would fall into line.
I will remind you that you are the only person online plowing this furrow- unless you can give me a cite to any other non-comedian who actually believes these weird ideas.
Any luck educating yourself about Croatia yet?
Despite your protestations, the International Court has said that UDI is legal.
Note to add that I changed my description of the situation when simplifying it. I had originally done an historical description but it got too complicated, and in changing it I made an error.
Croatia is an EU member and a member of the EEA.
Bit of a war involved directly with the first two, and to the immediate south of the last.
Took a war in each case.
By the way, if you think any country outside N. Korea type cases is going to recognise a UDI and thus totally screw up their relationship with one of the most powerful countries on earth, the UK. Not for a small country on the arse end of Europe.
Apart from the other people in this thread, you mean? Declaring independence doesn’t make you independent, the recognition of other states does. The International coUrt neither can nor will compel such recognition.
But hey, have fun being the next Turkish Cyprus. Who’s your sugar daddy going to be?
They are a provisional member of the EEA, pending ratification. I’ll link you to the Wiki page, since you seem unable to do so yourself -Wiki Page. Follow the links to the official pages if you like, or I’ll put them here and here.
You do not understand International Law or Real Politik.
Most of this is just English whinging because there is a possibility of a YES vote.
No, it’s an EU member that acts as an EEA member and is treated as such pending ratification of its membership. You know, the ratification procedure you’ve repeatedly claimed doesn’t exist, despite the EU claiming it does. I know who I’ll believe…
Off now, so I will put Steophan out of his misery:
http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/about/miscellaneous/listeeaCountries.shtml
They became full members a little over a month ago.
The ratification is merely to do with having the right laws, which Scotland does already as UK laws apply to Scotland before and after independence.
As you will note from the above, Croatia has been a full member since August 1st.
You really think realpolitik will lead to the US, China, Russia, or anyone else recognising Scotland’s right to independence with it taking over UK military bases? Not a chance. I doubt they’d allow it to default on it’s debts either.
I suspect it is you that doesn’t understand international law, to the extent that it truly exists. There is very little law that’s acknowledged by the entire world, and none to do with independence. You have the right to declare independence, but everyone else has the right to ignore you.
No, it’s you ignoring history, facts, politics and economics because you can’t accept that the world won’t bend over backwards to give you what you want at the expense of the evil English. That you keep referring to the English and not the UK is the absolute giveaway that you’re spouting meaningless nationalism, not debating in good faith.
So, you didn’t read my cites then? Well done you…
They are a provisional member. The ratification requires every member of the EEA to sign off on their membership (I’ve linked to several cites for that), which has not yet happened.
Do you actually not know what “ratification” means? It doesn’t mean having the right laws…
I didn’t claim otherwise. My quibble was over your characterisation of these countries as “successful”.
I am a lawyer and I understand international law perfectly well, far more than you can ever hope to, from your performance in this thread, especially the nonsense about ICJ. Apparently you think that the UK will be bound by the decision of a court whose very jurisdiction is advisory and based on agreement respectively
And I am not English. Or British. Or indeed, European. My interest in this matter is purely theoretical.
No. They are a full member from 1st August:
Croatia joins the EEA
The Agreement on the participation of the Republic of Croatia in the European Economic Area and three related agreements were signed today.
Pending their entry into force, the above Agreement and one of the related agreements (the Additional Protocol to the Agreement between the Kingdom of Norway and the European Union on a Norwegian Financial Mechanism for the period 2009-2014), will be applied on a provisional basis as of 12 April 2014 in accordance with an exchange of letters also signed today between Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein and the European Union that provide for such provisional application.
The other two related agreements (the Additional Protocol to the Agreement between the European Economic Community and the Republic of Iceland consequent to the accession of the Republic of Croatia to the European Union, and the Additional Protocol to the Agreement between the European Economic Community and the Kingdom of Norway consequent to the accession of the Republic of Croatia to the European Union) will apply provisionally as of 1 August 2014.
It is advisory and rarely ignored.
As of 2014 the contracting parties to the EEA are 3 of the 4 EFTA member states and all of the EU member states. The 28th and newest EU member, Croatia, finished negotiating their accession to the EEA in November 2013,[12] and became a full member on 1st August 2014. [2][5]
http://www.gdc-uk.org/DentalProfessionals/Applyforregistration/Pages/Overseas-EEA-Dentist-Page.aspx
•The EEA member states are Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lichtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, The Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and UK. For the purposes of registration with the GDC, Switzerland is treated as an EEA Member State.
http://www.udiregelverk.no/en/news/croatia-part-of-the-eea/
Croatia joined the EU on 1 July 2013. From 12 April 2014, Croatia is also part of the European Economic Area (EEA). The EEA Act Section 1 is amended to include the EEA Enlargement Agreement for Croatia 2014.
Citizens of Croatia are therefore now covered by Chapter 13 of the Immigration Act and section 19 of the Immigration Regulations, and can move to Norway to work, study, be self-employed or stay in Norway with its own funds, without applying for a residence permit. Instead, they must register if they wish to stay in Norway for more than three mon
Size change and bolding mine.
Your cite doesn’t say what you think it says. Or is “provisionally” another one of those words you don’t understand?
But then, you also think Switzerland is a member…