I am by no means the authority of American perceptions, but I really think you are quite wrong. I think Bannister is way, way more known than Hines.
I’d put Bob Beamon ahead of Hines, too.
I am by no means the authority of American perceptions, but I really think you are quite wrong. I think Bannister is way, way more known than Hines.
I’d put Bob Beamon ahead of Hines, too.
As Little Nemo points out, you are confusing Hines with the John Carlos/Tommie Smith incident (which probably reinforces how relatively unknown Hines is today). And while they’re better known than Hines and the incident itself is remembered, I don’t think that either Carlos or Smith is as well known by name as Bannister.
American here. I heard of Bannister when I was a kid in the 1970s (IIRC, I first heard of him when reading an SRA reading lab assignment about him breaking the 4-minute mile mark). I’d never heard of Hines before reading this thread.
You’re right, and I’m embarrassed.
I’ll go sit quietly in the corner now.
I also am an American who knows who Bannister is but not Hines.
I could immediately tell you who Roger Bannister is and what he’s known for. Not so much Hines. However, in my case I chalk it all up to to reading The Perfect Mile a couple of years ago. Without reading that, I don’t think that Bannister would ring a bell either.
Good book, BTW.
I’m an American and I’ve heard of Bannister (I’ve known about him since I was a kid in the 80s), and I don’t think I’ve ever heard of Jim Hines. With running at various distances, the names that come to mind from the past (in my example, anything from '96 and prior, since I turned 18 in '96) are Jesse Owens, Carl Lewis, Edwin Moses, Bannister, Steve Prefontaine, and…that’s about it. I was and am a big sports fan, but my knowledge about running has only increased a fair amount in the past 5 years, and I wouldn’t consider people like Alberto Salazar, Frank Shorter, or Bill Rodgers to be very famous to the general public, or even general sporting public.
I would say Bannister, in part because Hines wasn’t exactly the first to break the 10-second barrier in the 100m; he was the first to do it with electronic timing. (There were a number of hand-timed 9.9 100m runs before that; I wouldn’t be surprised if he ran at least one of them.)
Also, the “4-minute mile” seems to be more of an “accomplishment” than the “10-second 100m”. How many people today know who Javier Sotomayor (the first 8-foot high jumper) or Sergey Bubka (the first 20-foot pole vaulter) are?
Peruvian here.
Hines. The 100m dash is the king of running.
The 4 minute mile is an interesting thing, but the mile isn’t an Olympic distance; didn’t know who broke the 4-minute thingy.
Sotomayor and Bubka are even bigger names for me.
Bannister is a household name that was taught to us many times during my elementary school days. I’ve never heard of Hines until today. However, now that I know the name, I’m sure I will hear of him many times in the future.
ETA: I grew up in NJ
I’m American and know of Bannister and hear of him fairly often. Have never heard of Hines.
Bannister, by a mile.
I see what you did there. 
To be nitpicky, it was Bannister by 1650.639 yards. ![]()
To be really nitpicky, the exact difference is 1509.344 meters (or is it “metres” when talking about the distance?).
Aren’t you both saying the same thing? 1 mile less 100 metres expressed in yards and metres.
Anyway my quip was snappier…
To be honest I’d have struggled to recognise Hines was a sprinter, but Bannister is a household name in NZ (as well as NJ).