Who is papable right now?

Moderator Note

Since we keep getting reports for the “spelling error” in the title, I think I should point out that it’s actually not a spelling error.

Cite (From here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/papable):

papable

adjective

pa·​pa·​ble

ˈpāpəbəl

: qualified for and considered likely to succeed to the papacy

Word History

Etymology

Middle French, probably from Italian papabile

I stand corrected. Thanks. :blush:

Shame titles can’t have italics. I think

Who is Papabile Right Now?

would dispel most of the well-intentioned but unhelpful fussing.

Agreed. And “papabile” is certainly more common than “papable” in this context, but whatevs.

[Fr. Guido Sarducci]

“Find the Pope in the Pizza Ball”

[/Fr. Guido Sarducci]

Conventional wisdom holds that the College of Cardinals like to alternate a fat pope with a skinny pope. So expect a conservative pope who is not a Jesuit.

And not from Southern America and probably nit from the Americas at all.

Whether the rebound favors an Italian, a non-Italian European, or a non-European (read “African”) is TBD.

In a multipolar world the fat / skinny dichotomy loses a lot of predictive power. Back when they were all Italian conservatives it was sooo much easier!

Or Filipino.

Speaking of Filipinos, it is such a pity Cardinal Sin is no longer eligible! I wonder which papal name he would have chosen, having to give up that one.

The American Catholics would very likely leave if a DEI cardinal is elected. A schism is real possibility and must be considered above almost all else.

A lot of American Catholics already left over Francis’s policies. It would be amusing, if it weren’t so horrible, to watch their mental gymnastics as they try to justify how they’re still Catholic: “Oh, the Office of the Papacy still has absolute authority over the Church; it’s just the Pope himself who doesn’t have any authority”.

I think that anyone who would leave because of the Pope’s mere identity is among those who have already left. More leftward policies, though, might increase the number of those who have left.

Seriously? Are the cardinals in America as anti-DEI as Trump?

What does DEI have to do with anything? The Philippines is one of the most Catholic countries in the world - far more than the United States, for instance. If anything, an American pope would be a “DEI” choice.

DEI means darker skin color in MAGAese, nothing more.

Then if you’re using it that way, put it in parentheses to indicate that you’re speaking “MAGAese” rather than English.

Ok. I thought it was pretty common usage these days, but I can see how internationally it might not be yet. (I’m pretty sure it’s the same meaning in the UK these days though).

Let’s end this hijack by reminding everyone that DEI is an actual term with an actual meaning, and that the MAGA appropriation of it is a slur, one that is inappropriate for this board.

It’s divided with lots of money being pushed, which is what makes it chaotic.

https://thehill.com/opinion/congress-blog/religious-rights/5195260-catholic-voices-political-polarization/

I thought the thread title was “palpable” and wondered what it was about.

I just know that he wanted to live long enough to attend the Easter service, and he did. Well done, good and faithful servant.

Spoken like a parochial provincial American.

The loss of 100% of American Catholics would be little more than a rounding error in the total body. And is certainly a rounding error in their future growth.

Most of the rest of Catholicism’s response would be “Good riddance! Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.”

As an aside, over half of American Catholics consider the church far too conservative now. An increasingly loud but smaller reactionary group considers it far too liberal.

Said another way, it doesn’t matter what Rome does: 40-60% of American Catholics will be disappointed to incensed to maybe quitting. So from everyone else’s POV, the Americans can simply be ignored; the controversy and screaming and losses are baked no matter who they choose for their own reasons.


TL;DR: America does not matter to the Catholic Church. At all.