If he’s worked at McKinsey then he has a better knowledge of what’s wrong than most.
Here’s a report (pdf) called The Racial Wealth Divide in South Bend from Sep 2017.
First in terms of that article - yes his overall margins against his Black opposition candidate, Henry Davis Jr., were lower in some of the predominately Blacks districts than in others. Not sure if I’d read that as proof that a different white candidate, say a straight one, would have won those districts.
Your contention seems to be that Black voters won’t vote for a gay candidate.
How about we do an experiment? A good controlled one. Find a race and run two Black candidates of the same gender both with some progressive cred, one more of an outsider, like Buttigieg is, and who is also gay like he is, while the other is a bit more establishment, experienced, and straight.
Huh. If only we could do that and see what would happen …
Yeah, Lightfoot v Preckwinkle and the gay outsider won by a nearly 3 to 1 margin sweeping all wards.
Gay is not the kiss of death with Black voters. Issues and “change” matter.
Does anyone else here think Mayor Pete would do a great job as an SNL host?
It’s hard to get concrete policy positions out of him let alone lead a leading late night skit show. The issue with black voters is cultural and strong ties to religion. They aren’t different from religious white voters. Grouping blacks as what’s been outlined is borderline racism.
I’d argue that many whites who are as religious as Blacks will also have a dim view on homosexuality and how it means you’re not a real man, which we all know is a load of bologna. Though given what’s happened under Trump, I sincerely doubt many black voters who’ve been wronged and or hurt will vote for the TA. It may be a rubber stamp vote for PB if he makes it to the end, which I sincerely doubt he will.
Then again, Obama was a relatively unheard of senator before he chose to ran. Biden has so many troubles. Bernie is dodgier than ever. Gillebrand, Klobaucher, Harris and Booker are tarnished Democrats. Gabbard is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Then again, the GOP doesn’t seem to have an issue with gay people who keep to themselves. Why of course let’s look at the gentleman from South Carolina.
Graham makes Leslie Jordan come off as the butcher of the two.
Anyway, can’t really blame Pete B. for not making his policies public information. Don’t make claims and promises you can’t cash.
I saw his interview on Meet The Press this morning, and was pleasantly surprised. He seems to have his shit together and seems to have a level head. Nevermind the experience issue, with the current Oval Office occupant the idea of previous experience as a prerequisite has been forever smashed. I have a new early favorite, and it is not Joe Biden. (Or Sanders. Come on. We want to beat Trump here.) Mayor Pete, I like your nickname, too. Do you have any skeletons in your closet?
ETA: Meet The Press linkHe must be a skier, that Boot-Edge-Edge!
This candidate is intelligent but pretty shallow.
This guy explains it all
This is exactly backward, for multiple reasons.
First of all, the moral one: we should not accept Trump’s erosion (or obliteration) of norms. We ought to seek to bring those back immediately after he is gone. It is our moral responsibility to do so, and if we don’t do it immediately, they really will be gone.
Secondly, the political one: to beat Trump, we should try to nominate someone whose strengths contrast with his weaknesses. He’s old, so nominate someone young. (Okay, Pete’s got that, although IMO it’s going too far the other way.) He’s inexperienced, so nominate someone experienced. He’s a pu$$y grabber, so nominate someone who has not even a whiff of any MeToo issues. (You might guess I’m not a big fan of Biden.) Etc.
Who is this guy and why would I sit through 18 minutes of his video on Youtube? Perhaps you can explain it all instead.
Basically ignore the fan cheering of Buttigieg, he has no specific policies and is not for free healthcare.
Actually, we see the rejection of experienced politicians elsewhere in the world: Farage, Macron, Caputovna, etc. Politicians like May, Cameron, Clinton, and Biden have spent all their lives in the political bubble. They have no experience of the real world, no real connection with the working populace. And Trump and Brexit are symptoms of that failure.
The so called president had exactly zero political experience before his current gig. Therefore political experience is clearly not a prerequisite. That’s a fact. Political experience is better, certainly. And by the way, Mayor Pete has Mayoral experience.
Universal health care is not FREE HEALTHCARE! I have never spoken to another person who believes that. Universal healthcare is just paid for differently. And I heard Mayor Pete speak about this issue on an interview just the other day. He seems to support medi-care for all with a strong private insurance industry for those who want it and can afford it.
Buttigieg actually seems to have had a pretty good start in terms of fundraising, and he’s definitely getting it done in terms of marketing his name. Sanders had the best quarter, but O’Rourke seems to have done the most in the shortest span of time. Although I wouldn’t read too much into Q1 fundraising, it seems that, at minimum, Pete will be a part of the first few rounds of Democratic debates, which start this summer IIRC.
Which is probably a reasonable position - either that or regulating private healthcare as Obamacare does while offering a public option, which Obamacare tried to do but couldn’t.
I’m going with, He’s a fascist so nominate someone who isn’t a fascist. He’s a criminal so let’s nominate someone who isn’t a criminal. He’s utterly ignorant so let’s nom – oh, the hell with it. Point is, ‘different than Trump’ is not exactly a fine sieve.
I am finding that at the moment the person to compare to Buttigieg is Beto – young charismatic white guys with energy and not a huge back story to them. In that match up Buttigieg looks much better – more levelheaded, moderate, rather prominently promoting actual Christian values, a vet. While Beto comes across as hip and whimsical, which I don’t think is going to win us back the country.
I generally agree.
A lot of the buzz over Beto has to do with his showing against Ted Cruz, but like Trump, Cruz is very polarizing and unpopular. There are any number of candidates who could have given Cruz a close race. It’s early and I admittedly don’t know all that much about the candidates, but from what I’ve seen so far, I think Buttigieg seems to have a better grasp of issues, and it seems like he’s generally thought to anticipating the kinds of questions that are going to come up and how to respond to them. But Beto has a resume as well. I like Beto; I just think that I’m liking Buttigieg a little more at this stage.
Having said that, as much as I hate it and think it shouldn’t matter, a lot of this country isn’t ready for a gay president. That doesn’t mean he should drop out of the race. It’s just a fact, and it’s going to be a challenge.
Could be interesting if the Dems nominate a theocrat up against the most secular president in US history.
I predict a lot of sanctimonious talk from ostensibly secular or even atheist Democrats about “actual” Christian values.
Chasten Buttigieg, husband of the candidate, speaks at a recent Human Rights Campaign dinner in Houston: Chasten Buttigieg Speaks at the 2019 HRC Houston Dinner - YouTube