I’d probably go with Probert. Wasn’t he the one with the drug conviction, who couldn’t travel to Canada?
Also, Probert had a bit of a scoring touch, unusual among goons. Matthew Barnaby was another.
Monocracy, you’d call Czerkawski a goon??
By the way, I really loved those LA Kings-Edmonton Oiler games of the late 80s-early 90s. Each team featured several players who used to play for the other, and you could just bank on a couple of fights and a shitload of penalty minutes.
Somewhat related question: Anyone know who invented the “pull my opponent’s jersey over his head so he can’t throw a punch” trick?
Nicky Fotiu, Rangers/Whalers. Once chased Schultz off the ice and tried to get into the locker room while the Hammer ran. Tried SO hard. You’d see him digging in, going as hard as he could up ice. Trouble was, everyone else was going down ice… Ex Golden Gloves boxer, NYC native, threw pucks into the crowd before home games. If he had had Ron Duguay’s raw talent, he’d have been in the Hall. Neither one made it. Now a minor league coach.
No one remembers Orland Kurtenbach?
DRY, I think Probert was able to GO to Canada, but US officials would not let him back in if he left during the disposition of his case. Hence his nickname, Bob “Only in America” Probert…
Barbaby is an irritant, like a Clarke or Ulf Samuelson. Not the same.
Fastest to drop the gloves? IIRC Derek Sanderson could drop them and give you the 1-2 faster than anyone. Unfortunately, #3 usually dropped him on his ass…
You’ve got to love the non stop idiocy of a Bob Probert. He’s a dick to everybody, all the time. Did any Chicagoans happen to hear Probert’s interview with Steve Dahl a few months back?
::channeling again::
That’s about the only criticism anyone can come up with for Gordie Howe’s goonness; he scored too much to be considered a proper goon. Gordie never required a goon the way a prima donna like Gretzky did; he took care of himself.
(DRY, I’m sure you know this, but here in Canada, we call that maneuver “shirting” a player. Sorry, but we don’t know who invented it. We figure it must have been a Canadian , though :D)
Lurkernomore, yeah, I knew that Probert didn’t go to Canadian games and that it involved drug possession, but I didn’t know all of the details.
featherlou, it’s a great tactic! I’d just love to know who got the inspiration, and how. Was it a spur of the moment thing, or did some goon actually cogitate this sitting on the bench waiting for his “casting call”?
Whoaaaaaaa! Wait just one f’in minute. In no universe is Matthew Barnaby like Bobby Clarke. One is a Hall of Famer, and the other is, as you put it, an irritant. Yes, the guy has talent, but it’s completely overshadowed by some of the most childish and churlish behavior in sports. If he put his mind to it, he might actually score goals, but he just wants to be a pain in the ass. (Although I will readily admit that Clarke was a pest, he was a pest with the intention of scoring goals, while Barnaby’s intention is… well, to be a pest.)
And Tie Domi’s not even that good of a goon. I remember a few years back when his team (I think he was with Toronto then, too) was playing Philadelphia in the playoffs and Domi was taking some cheap shots at one of the smaller Flyers. Sandy McCarthy went after him (good boy, Sandy), and what did our mean, tough, ornery Tie to? He TRIED TO HIDE BEHIND THE REF! I kid you not. He’s a chickens**t.
I love that team name, although I had always heard snapper used a term too offensive to be used this way… Which is probably why I love it.
I want a jersey. They could make a mint selling stuff with that logo. I love women’s hockey like I love women’s rugby. Lotsa guys think we’re too pussy to play, but they’re dead wrong.
These guys are all pretty boy sissy panzies compared to the Hammer, Dave Schultz. Ever since he left the scene, all the pussies from other NHL teams have been taking cheap shots at Philadelphia Flyers stars like Lindros trying to get one IOTA of revenge!
Dan,
Clarke can be an irritant and a player at the same time, just as Howe could be a tough guy and a scorer. Clarke got more mileage out of a butt end than Jennifer Lopez.
…and, speaking as someone who was involved in a mutual hockey jersey shirting incident at a Dopefest (pics on the pages), I’ve already said I’m afraid of Jarbaby. You hit her wrong, she’ll get whistled for holding the stick…and you’ll be charged for playing with a broken stick…
DZ42, Kasparitus can play a little. Kinda takes him out of goon, like Chris Simon rose out. That said, he is DIRTY. That kneee stuff… Marchment is worse, but that’s it.
