Who oversees pharmacists?

Today I observed a pharmacist doing something that I feel is dangerous.

I am writing a letter, which I will send to the store manager, the CEO of the company, and the person in charge of the pharmacies run by that company.

I would also like to send a copy of the letter to whatever body is in charge of overseeing pharmacists. In other words, I want to report him. But I’m not sure who to report him to.

Does anyone know who I should contact.

BTW: This was in New Jersey, at a pharmacy located in a chain supermarket.

Thanks in advance

The DEA oversees and investigates problems with pharmacies and pharmacists.

Something you feel is dangerous? Are you a chemist or do you have some sort of background in knowing what the “safe” thing to do would have been? Common, some info man, interested in hearing what a customer could “see” a pharmacist doing dangerously that they would be able to recognize as such.

State of New Jersey
Board of Pharmacy
P.O. Box 45013
Newark, NJ 07101

A printable .pdf form is available here.
I’ve seen pharmacists do a few things I’ve considered to be not professional and potentially dangerous. Spilling a bunch of pills on the counter and then scooping them back into the bottle is the most recent incident.

I’m interested to hear what the issue is, having worked in retail and hospital pharmacy for a long time- what happened, Green Bean?
Also peri, for what it’s worth, at the pharmacy I used to work at we cleaned the counters all day with alcohol wipes to keep it clean in case pills fell on it (we also cleaned the counting trays all day long). The enviornment I work in now (I package pills for a hospital pharmacy) is not a sterile room, but I use alcohol on the surface I work on throughout the day to keep it clean. (This is our company’s policy on cleanliness.)

The state board of pharmacy is the licensing and regulatory authority over pharmacists. If the incident involves controlled substances, the local DEA office will be involved at the request of the board.

miatachris, R.Ph.

What miatachris said.
(And please do tell what it is that you observed).

Kspharm, R.Ph

As miatachris said, the board of pharmacy investigates problems with pharmacies and pharmacists. I just wanted to further emphasize the point that the DEA is involved in the regulation of controlled substances. The majority of prescription drugs are not controlled substances. Controlled substances are generally drugs of abuse, like Heroin, Cocaine, morphine, vicodin, valium, barbiturates, and others. If the pharmacist spit on your amoxicillin, the DEA won’t care.

Pharmacists are great people to consult for no nonsense medical remedies; in many instances, better than doctors.

You know why? Because they studied the kinds of medicines, their formulations, their workings, their effects, their needed dosages, etc., more, much more than doctors.

You don’t believe me? Ask any doctors, whether they have more training in pharmacology than pharmacists.

Now, doctors are supposed to be able to know what’s bugging you; but they have to depend upon pharmacists to know what medicines are available and which are the best ones for your indisposition.

And do you know where doctors in their practice learn about the latest medicines in the market? Why, but from the drug representatives of pharmaceutical companies; these guys are the teachers of doctors. I presume these guys are pharmacists or receive very good crash courses in pharmacology or pharmaceutics. (Sons of their mothers, what’s the difference…?)

If you have any fare of the day trouble with your body and limbs and head and organs, go to the pharmacist, catch him in a free momenet and talk to him about what is best for the least available in the shelves.

This guy knows what doctors prescribe most and what medicines work best and what cost least but gives the best outcome.

Susma Rio Sep

PS I read some years back that in some jurisdictions pharmacists can prescribe medicines, and even nurses.

Any good pharmacist will tell you to go see a doctor, if it’s anything serious enough that it can’t be treated with over-the-counter stuff. So why not go to the doctor to begin with?

Thanks for the information, peri. That’s exactly what I was looking for.

I’ve been holding off on explaining what my complaint is because I’m afraid that I’ll be accused of overreacting. But I do have some pharmacy experience. I worked in a drug store for 2 years in high school, and I frequently assisted in the pharmacy department. If nothing else, I feel confident in saying that I have some idea what goes on back there.

What I observed was that the pharmacist was filling prescriptions while listening to talk radio (some sort of sports commentary program). Furthermore, he apparently had no one assisting him, so he was dealing with customers at the same time.

When I worked in the pharmacy, I observed that it was common for the pharmacists to make errors, but they caught the errors before the drugs went to the customers. Typical errors included grabbing the wrong pill bottle off of the shelf and putting the pill container into a bag labeled for another customer. As I said, these mistakes were caught and corrected–because the pharmacists were paying attention to what they were doing.

It concerns me that this pharmacist, who was already in a potentially distractible situation because he had to deal with customers at the same time as filling prescriptions, voluntarily added another distracting element to his work environment.

The fact that it was talk radio rather than music is really the factor that disturbs me. Talk radio is something that you actively listen to, rather than something in the background. Even if you are not paying much attention to the program, something will often catch your ear, and you will turn your attention to what is being discussed.

I spoke to the store assistant manager, who said that the pharmacist frequently listens to the radio.

Of course, a mistake in dispensing prescriptions is potentially very dangerous, even fatal. The pharmacist should try to ensure that he can give as much of his attention as possible to getting it right.

Green Bean, I don’t think this rates a formal complaint. We have the radio on all day at my office (dentist), talk radio Saturday mornings, and it is really nothing more than background noise. If he were pumping his fist in the air or yelling, “Go Localteam,” I would be concerned. Even so, that would only cause me to write the store and corporate offices, not the Pharmacy Board.

The fact that he’s by himself is a far more dangerous thing than the radio. It’s too much to ask, unless you are in a VERY VERY slow store, to be by yourself to fill scripts, answer the phone, ring people up, wait for people to write “no/100” on their checks, listen to them complain, and still be expected to do a good job on accuracy.

If you want to help, write a letter asking for some help for the pharmacist. If he knows you did that, I bet you personally and eventually everyone else will benefit.

I’d like to say thank you to ** Susma ** for the ringing vote of confidence. Thank you for making my day. I’ve been taking a lot of stuff lately with precious few atta-boys.

miatachris, R.Ph.

I’m not going to file a formal complaint. I’m sending a letter to the supermarket headquarters, and I’m going to CC it to the Board of Pharmacy. But I didn’t know what the Board of Pharmacy was even called or where it could be found.

miatachris: I’d love to give you a “vote of confidence,” but I haven’t encountered a good pharmacist in years. In fact, I switched my prescriptions to the supermarket pharmacy in the first place because the CVS pharmacist was so remarkably unhelpful and rude.

And yes, I tried to go to a local independent pharmacy. There’s one in town here that’s rumored to be excellent. But they stock so much potpourri and scented candles and other smelly crap that I can barely walk through the door without retching. The stench is overwhelming.

All you guys who are so demanding of the attention of pharmacists, which is of course justified, have you been very observant when you are with a doctor to see whether his mind and heart and senses are concentrated in what he is doing with your life and health?

Have you ever been operated on and heard what doctors and the medical staff assisting them, doing the surgery on you, are talking about while cutting you up – that is before you became unconscious?

Ask around from people who could hear all throughout their surgical procedures – because the anaesthesia did not knock out their hearing. And you yourselves, next time you see a doctor, observe carefully what is the mind and heart and senses of the doctor as he attends to your life and limbs and health.

My point: beware of doctors, not only of pharmacists. Certainly, we still have to depend on them and to trust them; but keep your senses alert when you are in their hands.

Susma Rio Sep

Wanted: a candid camera T.V. program on “What doctors and their medical staff talk about, and other things they also do, as they perform invasive surgery on you”.

Susma Rio Sep