Who rigged the election?

I’m not. It wasn’t going to happen because it would have been incredibly illegal; there is no wiggle room about it. If it had happened, we would already be talking about bipartisan agreements to have Trump impeached.

In fact, they did engage in election interference in a manner that worked on you. They didn’t need to actually go to the polls; they just had to make you think they might or could in order to scare people.

Eh, by the end of the day on January 6, 2021 I was convinced Trump was going to be impeached. It didn’t happen. I just don’t take it as a given that Republican politicans or the American people as a whole will necessarily care when Trump does something incredibly illegal. Or that anyone will respond to Trump’s actions quickly enough to prevent damage from being done.

Yeah, it looks like that’s what they were doing.

Maybe its a sign that the Trump hysteria was exaggerated, and that Trump/MAGA are not the American equivalent of the National Socialist Party circa 1933?

Jan. 6 was a real thing that happened. The Americans shot dead in Minnesota were real people. The human beings shipped off to countries where they had ever been before are real humans. There’s more.

Let me know when people wearing MAGA arm bands are carrying clubs and beating protesters on the street.

They are. They call themselves ICE.

That’s exactly the sort of hyperbole I’m objecting to. ICE is a federal agency enforcing the law.

Tell Alex Pretti and Renee Good that what I said is hyperbole.

So were the Sturmabteilung in 1933, you know…

Except it apparently backfired and made people MORE determined, c.f. those college kids who walked several miles to fill out their ballots.

100%. As I said elsewhere, sometimes when you try to intimidate people you just end up pissing them off.

And the Nazis weren’t?

My wife and I are moderate. If a little left leaning.

I’ve been shooting firearms since I was 11yo. My wife asked me to show her how to shoot.

Took classes. Got our CCW permits. Though we don’t carry, we want to be able to.

We now go to the range twice a month. It’s pretty much a standing breakfast date (it’s expensive).

The GOP and MAGA are full of cowards. But I suppose I was a little intimidated by morons. Though, myself, I prefer to be prepared.

I might start a target shooting thread, if anyone is interested.

Um, no the Brownshirts were the private army of the National Socialist party, not a state-sanctioned body.

Seconded.

Thanks to making various public threats against fair elections for months, Trump/MAGA met determined resistance against outwardly rigging the election – almost all of it in the courtroom and through pre-emptive actions.

Otherwise, I have no doubt that the Project 2025 crowd would have been happy to assume the National Socialist mantle 93 years on.

Finally! I was starting to be a bit disappointed by the lack of fraud accusations (aside from Alaska).

In other words, Trump and MAGA are the National Socialists circa 1923, not 1933.

They were briefly a state sanctioned body after the NSP came to power in 1933.

I suppose Godwin’s Law has been officially repealed. :unamused_face: