Who tells the most brazen lies? And gets a pass?

Rush Linbaugh and Beck tell lies all the time and get huge salaries for it.

“Alternative medicine” shitheels. My fellow leftists who happily lay into anything at all that comes out of the political right seem unperturbed by the utter bullshit these liars spew.

Not valid. Give me examples. Specific.

There it is.

No, it’s not.

Cite?

It could simply be a person that has failed to fully think things through. It’s not automatically a lie.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200502180006

As for Glenn Beck, just his historical lies in the attempt to turn liberals into fascists should be enough.

Jenny Mcarthy

Joe Fucking Morgan.

Why Jon Miller hasn’t pushed him out of a booth window is beyond me. The man just sits there and makes up crap.

Wait! Tim McCarver is worse. With his arguments that trying to get a single is selfish but running out a double-play shows team-spirit. And Joe Buck hasn’t killed him with a paperclip yet.

So, Tim McCarver tells the most brazen lies and gets a pass.

Come on, let’s get this thread rolling!

How about Obama? He promised to end closed door negoations around health care, and instead round table Health Care reform, and make it televised on C-SPAN so it was all in the open:

He’s not a loser?

No. This refers to a promise made about the future. You may fairly call it a broken promise, but it’s not by any means a lie.

That seems a little nitpicky. You are saying it’s only a lie if it is false at the time you say it? Does it matter if you have any intention of fulfilling the promise? If I say “Next year, I’m going to give you $1 million”, I think that’s fair to characterize as a lie, because I have no intention of fulfilling it.

I can’t claim to know that Obama knew it was a lie at the time, but he certainly didn’t make any effort to keep it, so I think it’s fair to question whether he really intended too.

To be fair, just because people call those who “speak up” racist doesn’t mean a particular person speaking up isn’t actually racist.

The CEOs of the tobacco companies, testifying before congress - (paraphrasing the repeated claim) “To my knowledge, smoking does not increase the risk of cancer.”

OK, let’s take the first one: a summary line says, “Limbaugh lied about 9-11 Commission report.” That link reveals this:

In fact, the 9-11 report says:

My only question would be: what were Limbaugh’s actual words? “The [9-11 Commission] report said…” is the presented quote, but the use of square brackets for the words 9-11 Commission indicate that those were not actually used. Could Limbaugh have been referring to one of the many reports examined by the 9-11 Commission?

Without more, I am reluctant to call this an umambiguous lie by Limbaugh, although I certainly acknowledge that the sentence The 9-11 Commission report said that Mohamed Atta did meet with an Iraqi Intelligence Agency, or agent, in Prague on April 9th of 2001 is a lie. (Note the ansebce of square brackets in my version.)

Question away. But this isn’t a thread to question whther statements are intended to turn out as lies, but whether statements are brazen lies at the time they’re made. Obama’s doesn’t fit.

Okay, you guys are saying too many funny things lately. Did you all go to stand-up school on hardship scholarships or something?