Who was the bad guy in the band?

Where is that “eating my popcorn” emoticon when you need it?

Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck and Keith Moon almost formed a band together. The story goes Moon said that lineup “will go over like a lead zeppelin” and Page used the name when he formed LZ 2 years later.

I dunno. Davies and Hodgson are credited as co-writers on almost every song on their classic era albums (1974-1979). If Davies sang lead on his own songs, then it’s roughly 50% of their material during this period. I’ll grant that Hodgson sang lead on (and thus probably wrote) about 2/3 of their radio hits. But it’s not even close to 100%.

If Davies violated their verbal agreement to not play Roger’s songs in concert, then, yeah, that’s a dick move.

ETA: OK, a few others are questioning this narrative!

Check out Hodgson’s first solo album “In the Eye of the Storm”. It’s really good. The song “Only Because of You” is amazing:

I’m a huge Queensryche fan, and I would agree with this. His stage presence was egotistical even after he spent decades ruining his voice with cigarettes and whatever. Add to that his history of adding family members to the band (his son-in-law cane on board to take over for Chris Degarmo at some point, IIRC)

His replacement has great pipes, and a really nice persona. He didn’t even blink when I got a crowd full of biker guys to start chanting, “Who needs Geoff? Who needs Geoff?”

I saw them on the same tour. Great show. When I saw them they seemed to be getting along onstage and no one walked off.

And here I thought the thread was going to be about Robbie Robertson. It’s pretty evident while watching The Last Waltz that Robertson is trying really hard to make a great movie and to say what needs to be said. In the few usable interview segments Danko and Manuel are blasted out of their gourds and Levon is slightly more sober. If that’s how they were going to be when they knew they were being filmed by Scorsese for a movie how were they the rest of the time?

Robertson was also completely sincere about his desire to never tour again. He’s made plenty of music and performed live here and there on occasion but he has never toured since The Last Waltz. The rest of the group wanted to tour and make money.

I forgive a lot of Robertson’s flaws due to his brilliance with The Band and the fact that his first solo album remains one of my favorite albums of all time.

Tate’s retaliation was putting out an album under the band’s name called Frequency Unknown (with a big “FU” on the cover) in which many of the band’s biggest songs are redone with different musicians. That’s retaliation. I’m pretty sure being able to use the Mindcrime name and being allowed to play the band’s music live were part of the deal they agreed to in court.

Garth is…Garth.

Billy corgan from the smashing pumpkins

Phil Anselmo from pantera

Dee Snider from twisted sister

Supposedly all assholes.

I’m not terribly familiar with Zevon. But this sounds like a good story.

Pity. My story is better. :smiley:

Agreed

Even in a band of zonked-out acid-heads like Hawkwind, Lemme Kilmeister’s style proved too much by the time he was (ha - wrongfully, it turned out) convicted of cocaine possession in Toronto and got kicked out of the band, and proceeded to go back home and screw some of his (very recent) ex-bandmate’s girlfirends.

Is it possible that one of the Gallagher brothers (of Oasis) was more toxic than the other?

David Byrne of the Talking Heads. When their double live album ('82) was made, the guitarist added on for that tour was the venerable Adrian Belew. Franz and Weymouth were about ready to kill Dave in (I think) Japan, and approached Adrian if he’d like to replace him, but the Twang Bar King politely declined, with his sites set on some project;) with Robert Fripp and Bill Bruford.
IIRC there was a mid-80s Spin cover story on the Talking Heads being “Byrned out”. I can’t remember what particular thing it was in reference to, but Franz mentioned something about Byrne “playing dirty pool”.

How about a band with no bad guy? Is that even possible?

ELP? You can’t count Kieth’s tragic suicide because that was way after they were a band. (Even if they’d still been a regularly-playing band, calling him a “bad guy” - however one would define it here - being someone who kills himself? Hmmmm.)
From my somewhat limited perusings, they seemed to have been quite boringly compatible the whole time.

I can’t see anyone in the Osmonds being a toxic cesspit of badass degradation, unless someone steeped in Osmondia can otherwise shitkick the ignorance out of me on that.

Whoever that band was that did that song that went “So put your hand in the hand of the man who spilled the waters.” ok that one was just a blind stab.

Liam. Easily.

Rush. I don’t think Rutsey counts. I’ve never heard them say anything bad about him.

By all accounts, the members of Rush got along very well.

I think the same goes for ZZTop. I’m basing this off of the fact that they’ve been together for like 50 years with the same lineup.

ELP had their infighting, but I don’t think it was any one member who was the “bad guy.”

ELP, Rush, ZZTop… I guess it’s easier to keep cool when there’s only three people in the band. :slight_smile:

Sure. Just ask The Police.
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Old 97s are another band that has been together close to 30 years with the same lineup, and they all seem like genuinely nice guys who get along great.

How has this thread gone so long without any mention of Lead Singer’s Disease? :smiley:

Back after the first split, it sure seemed like Roth’s ego had gotten too big, his happy-go-lucky schtick was just an act and Eddie was the wronged party. But after hearing horror stories from Hagar and Michael Anthony* after their ousters, and reading Eddie’s Billboard interview given right before they launched the second reunion tour with Roth where he flat out said “We are not friends” and stated he’d rather tour with someone else but the fans want to see Roth, I’d say Eddie’s quite a bit of a dick as well.

*Eddie forced Anthony out of the band before their last tour together (reunion with Hagar), forcing him to perform as a salaried support musician, denying him any share of merchandise or ticket revenue.

Wellllll…let’s just say there are multiple potential sources of friction in the Talking Heads ;). To quote: Talking Heads fans generally don’t take kindly to dumping on Weymouth, but she really is the Lady Macbeth of rock.

That shouldn’t let Byrne off the hook of course, as he seems to have been genuinely odd and frustratingly difficult. But apparently he wasn’t the only issue.