Who will/should Obama pick as running mate?

One more specific consideration of course - the VP is considered a good way to get the nomination in 8 years (even if the track record of winning with it is not so hot).

Hillary of course wants it and would be a strong contender in 8 years. Richardson plays to the possibility of bringing Texas as a Democratic state in the future - and it will likely be worth more electoral votes in the future as its population is growing.

Bringing a soft GOP as VP (like my long time favorite longshot - Zinni) appeals to the storyline but the long term goal of keeping the Presidency (if he wins) after his (hopefully) 8 years are up would be better served by picking a Democrat who is young enough to wait and capable of doing the job. I’m more and more coming full circle back to Richardson.

I’m surprised neither guy has made, or at least announced, his choice. People were suggesting McCain might make his announcement to draw attention away from Obama, since things got to the point where McCain had to complain about media coverage just to get any media coverage (they love that stuff). I thought that made sense, but it didn’t happen. Maybe because Jindal said he doesn’t want the job.

I saw a report Friday that Obama’s people asked some questions about Ann Veneman, who would fulfill all three possible criteria: she’s a woman, a Republican (Bush’s former Agriculture Secretary and current UNICEF head), and an absolutely out of nowhere ‘what the fuck?’ pick. I hope Obama’s people are just being thorough, because that choice sounds like a case of outsmarting yourself.

This historical comparison may have been made already, but in 2004, Kerry announced his choice on July 6, about four months after he’d wrapped up a win. Bush and Gore both wrapped up their nominations in early March 2000; Bush announced the choice of Cheney in July and Gore chose Lieberman in August.

So now we get to an interesting question - would Obama consider announcing his choice at the actual convention? Would that be a poor use of media attention or would it make the whole thing a bigger deal?

It says on Reed’s wiki page he’s not interested in being Obama’s VP. Take that for what you will, but after reading it I’d ask him to be mine.

I think the Obama announcement will come in early August. He will dominate the news for a few days running up to the Olympics and the convention will start immediately after the Olympics. McCain might be forced to name his pick at that time as well lest he be pushed off the front page for all of August and leave him basting the media in a speech at Der Haus of Schnitzel.

I disagree. Hillary’s time has come and gone. That’s one reason why she fought to the bitter end. She knew it was now or never.

She is a woman, and therefore she will be too old in eight years.

It’s a sad fact, and a shameful double standard.

But it’s a reality.

I agree that it was now or never, but does it have to be about gender? She’ll be 69 just before the election in 2016, which would be old for any Presidential candidate - younger only than Dole and McCain. I think she’d actually be a little older than Reagan the first time he was nominated.

I just moved out to Phoenix and the politics here are very interesting. If I read the winds correctly (after my considerable week here), there seems to be no love lost for Gov. Janet Napolitano. If she were nominated as VP, she may carry the state of Aridzona for the donks simply because it would remove her as governor.

Isn’t that why Teddy Roosevelt got selected as VP? To get him out of NY politics?

Actually I think the gender/age argument goes the other way. Women live longer and are generally functional longer. It is no coincidence that McCain’s mother is the one still alive and sharp in her 90’s.

I don’t think she’ll be too old particularly because of her gender.

Does anyone have a feel for all this Kaine hoopla? I’m just not thinking this is the guy. Is he too raw? His anti-abortion stance could hurt with women.

Man, his anti-abortion stance could hurt with me. (Well, come to think of it, I am a woman) Obama said he wants some who shares his vision, to help him lead. Abortion is no fringe issue; it’s supreme court justices, my number one issue!

Release the hounds!!!

Oy!, breathe slowly, and repeat: You’ve got nowhere else to go, because you do not want John McCain! You’ve got nowhere else to go, because you do not want John McCain! You’ve got nowhere else to go, because you do not want John McCain!

I like Richardson immensely, but I agree with an earlier poster that the great unwashed would probably choke on a ticket that has two brown faces.

Likewise, I’m not sure if Sibelius would be any more advantagous in that regard…black man and a woman? One or the other would be a huge advancement on so many levels…but both may just be overkill and too much to expect of the less-than-tolerant electorate.

Hillary, IMHO, is just not a consideration, the woman factor aside. I don’t think she’s cut out to be a second banana, nor do I believe she brings any more significant experience to the table. Her history in re: universal healthcare would have some screaming socialized medicine and high taxes while, in reality, at this point, she would be the least likely of the two to bring meaningful reform of the system to bear. I also think it’s been evidenced that the populace either loves her or hates her, and I would bet a good number of swing voters fall into the latter category. Btw, I voted for her in the primary. Just tryin’ to keep it real. And could you just imagine a HObama bumper sticker?

Kaine, pro-life?..meh. Edwards–if, in fact, he’s been slinking around with a mistress and subsequently lied about it, he’s history. Otherwise, credibility already suspect…meh. Lieberman? Militantly pro-Israel. May as well just paint a target on the Executive Office Building.

I like Ed Rendell and believe his talents have been greatly underestimated or underreported. A former DA, when he was elected Mayor of Philly (also dubbed America’s Mayor by a major media publication–I believe it was Time mag), that City could not get so much as junk bond status. What he did there was nothing short of miraculous: balanced budget, improved services, spurred the creation of a privately funded business improvement district for Center City with wonderful results as well as the building of a state-of-the-art convention center, negotiated brilliantly with City unions, and brought new business into the City including a European ship-building firm that brought back manufacturing jobs to the Philly Navy Yard shut down by Congress. Now, as Pennsylvania’s governor, he runs the only state that continues to have significant job growth. The man is truly an economic development whiz–and, the war aside, it really is about the economy, stupid. Oh, and his wife is a well-regarded federal judge. Sure doesn’t hurt. Also can’t factor out the importance of Pennsy bringing in a win in for the dems.

On the downside, much like the brown/brown and black man/female issue, Rendell is Jewish and someone who could be regarded with fear by the same demographics that fear women and people of color. Since Obama has made his position on Israel clear, I don’t know that Rendell would add anything there. Also…and it’s unfortunate that this even matters…he also does not look vice presidential. While he has tons of charisma, the bad hair and rumpled suits give a very skewed impression of the man. And he also has a history of shooting from the hip in re: the media and tends to be very outspoken (as Chairman of the DNC, he had a few foot in mouth moments, and as noted below), and rumors of his dalliances have circulated locally for years. He wouldn’t lie a la Clinton; he’d probably say, it’s no one’s fucking business.

But since choices are made based upon political considerations even more than the potential candidates capacity to get the job done, I’m calling it Richardson as the potential veep with the fewest “nay” factors.

In an ideal world, Gore would change his mind.

Lieberman?!? He’s endorsed McCain. He’s persona non grata with Democrats, and in January they will probably tell him to take a hike.

I also have to dispute the idea that he wouldn’t be a nominee because of “target” issues, seeing as how he was thisclose to being Vice President eight years ago. But he’s more likely to be McCain’s choice than Obama’s, not that that’ll happen either.

Whoops, my bad. I guess I missed that news cycle and just bounced off his mention in another post below. At any rate? Glad to hear it.

As to a “target” issue being a disqualifier, I stand by my assertion. The very thing has been discussed with regard to Tom Ridge as a McCain running mate in re: his pro-choice stance. A post preceding mine rejected a potential Obama vp candidate based on the very same issue.

No disrespect intended, but do you honestly think a hard-line anti-Israel pol would stand a chance in hell of being selected knowing that it would alienate a huge, traditionally Democratic voting bloc? For me, a militant pro-Israel, anti-Palestinian stance has the same chilling effect.

I just don’t think Richardson looks particularly Hispanic. He looks as if he could come from any southern European ancestry, while his name is about as Anglo as they come - in short, a typical American. Only those who care a lot are going to know that Richardson is Hispanic, unless the Republicans choose to make it an issue. That will be a little tough without making themselves look rather bad.

But good heavens, I really hope he doesn’t choose Kaine without a sworn statement that in the terrible event that Kaine has to complete Obama’s term, Kaine will not appoint an anti-abortion Supreme Court justice and Obama truly trusting him to abide by that. I can understand and even sympathize with pro-lifers as long as they are also pro-birth control, but just because I can see their side of the issue doesn’t mean that I can in any way whatsoever agree with it. As I said above, Supreme Court justices are my number one issue, because they are one of the issues that are truly under the control of the president in a way that things like the economy are not.

My thoughts exactly, and I’ve been wondering why “two brown faces” keeps cropping up as an argument against him. This ain’t exactly a Ricardo Montalban we’d be seeing on the campaign trail. I would never have pegged him as Hispanic if the media hadn’t mentioned it. He’s got a great resume and it seems to me that he and Obama get along very well.

Come to think of it, who would know Ricardo Montalban was Hispanic if it weren’t for the name or the accent? Gorgeous, yes. Mexican? Not so much.

Maybe the whole Kaine/Biden/Bayh thing is just a smoke screen…

BTW, ETF, have I mentioned to you lately that I love you and would like to bear your children if I were a woman of childbearing years and you were a man and I could stand children? :smiley:

I’m sold on Kaine. He won’t appoint a pro-life Supreme Court judge if he should ever become president. There is no way he would get a pro-life judge through the very Democratic Senate.

As I have thought on so very many posts in GD this year, from your mouth to God’s ear. And I’m an atheist!

And, the media will keep mentioning it. Also, the chain emails, blog comments, and message board posts certainly will. The same folks who spread the news that the liberal media don’t want you to know will make sure that the faithful are aware of Richardson’s ethnicity, along with a bunch of other crap they just made up. McCain isn’t going to go out and say, “Vote for me and my running mate 'cause we’re white”, but he won’t have to.

I dunno who the best pick for Obama is – maybe it is Richardson – but I disagree with Oy! that “Only those who care a lot are going to know that Richardson is Hispanic, unless the Republicans choose to make it an issue.” Everyone in the universe will know about a day after Obama picks him.

You may well be right. I just have trouble imagining the context in which it can be introduced without being barefacedly racist. But I guess it can be done.

ETA: on the other hand, will anyone actually care? If they’ve accepted a black guy as president, are they really going to care that an accent-free guy is VP?