Who wins in 2024?

Yeah, American style weapons are nearly as ubiquitous as Russian style weapons. But seeing terrorists waving AK47 clones doesnt indicate direct Russian weapon support.

For example, the M16/M4 is made in Korea by Daewoo, by FN in Belgium, and by several other US companies besides Colt. And nation with the cash can buy them.

You said “massive” in one post.

Thanks for that cite Sam. I read the whole thing. Whew, Reuters online sucks, so I admit I may have missed it, but I saw nothing about corrupt Ukraine or Afghanistan.

Can you please provide a cite for those claims? That’s really what I was after.

Sorry I wasn’t more clear. Thanks again.

Here you go:

Not really a cite at all. The M16/m4 is made and sold internationally, just like the AK47. They can simply be purchased.

Look you clearly tried to sell us it was 50,000. If no one called on it you’d have let slide.

Quote for He Who Will Not Read His Cites.

For clarity’s sake, get rid of the parenthetical statement.

I did not say that. I already said that I worded that post poorly and clarified, which you ignored. I did not intend to suggest that 50,000 Palestinians were protesting. We have 50,000 Palestinian refugees, and SOME of them are protesting. I linked to an article quoting one of the Palestinians who was protesting, after I was asked for another cite to prove that any Palestinians were involved.

Also, this is a hijack from the main thread. If you want to keep attacking me, take it to the pit.

I need a cite please for ANY protests currently taking place. ANY.

You might want to look up a few messages, where I posted exactly that.

Also:

First page of a Google search for ‘Palestinian Protests’. Not hard to find.

Take this personal crap to the pit.

Yes, I knew that, but I was trying to be courteous. I guess the stuff about weapons coming from Ukraine and Afghanistan isn’t going to be cited.

Or I should say, cited either.

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First, same note for both of you. Attack the post and not the poster.
Then for @Sam_Stone; that is junior modding. Do not Junior Mod. Flag the post and stay out of trouble please.

Geez, also no blank links please, especially when they don’t relate to the thread directly. Explain why you’re linking to something. I broke the bare link.

No problem, wouldn’t be the first time I was wrong.

There is really nothing to be done about things like that. If you’re going to supply high-tech weapons to combatants in the midst of a war, some will be captured and some will be diverted by the unscrupulous and corrupt. You work with security and intelligence agencies to minimize it, but it cannot be 100% prevented.

C’est la vie. Supplying arms to Ukraine during an existential struggle for survival supersedes any concerns about captured arms being reverse-engineered or put to evil use.