I’d like to see the video but when i click on it it takes me to random Instagram videos. I’ve tried 4 different times. Anyone know how I can watch this?
You first have to be logged in, and then here is the link, Drivers Being Stupid & Crazy! on Instagram: "Follow us (@crazymotorists) for more content like this! 💥🚘 #carcrash #scary #trending #dashcam #viral #caraccident". If that doesn’t work, I’m not sure what else to do.
Maybe quote this post, to get the literal link syntax. You can try that too.
Something must have changed because when the video was first posted, it wasn’t necessary to be logged in.
When I tried it I was not logged in and I got a random video. Maybe something did change.
@I_Love_Me_Vol.I , any luck?
This attitude is, frankly, astounding. “Oh, sure, the driver was zooming around with thousands of pounds of steel at their control, but they can hardly be expected to pay attention to every little thing like the combination of (1) a crosswalk and (2) a large, boxy vehicle stopped at the crosswalk. How can we possibly expect them to care enough for the lives of others to realize that maybe they should slow down at least, or even stop?”
It’s a world gone mad.
If a driver is inattentive, they can kill someone. If a pedestrian is inattentive… they can die. Seems to me like the law needs to make up the balance to encourage drivers to not become accustomed to driving around in a state of “semi-attentiveness” because otherwise they are far less likely to bear the consequences of their actions than a pedestrian. A related problem is how SUVs and pickups have been allowed to ignore regulations intended to make cars less deadly to pedestrians in collisions. Sure, a massive, oversized pickup is going to be safer for the driver and their passengers, but it’s much more likely to be deadly for pedestrians than a sedan.
Motorists should not be allowed to run roughshod over pedestrians without consequence. End of story.
No. I think you have to be logged in to Instagram to see it. Probably because there is an age restriction tag on it. I don’t think it was there earlier and that’s why all y’all could view it. Then the SDMB was down for a little while, too.
Sometimes folks here say they’re not able to go to a Facebook or X link because: “I don’t have an account.” I always think that’s silly because you don’t need an account to read something posted on one of those sites.
But know I have a case where I can’t view something unless I have an account! What a pain.
Or it might be because you are, most likely, a significantly better-trained driver and therefore, most likely a far safer and better driver. I sure would love to see sufficient driver’s education in the US but we can’t do that here because then we would have to have real public transportation. And folks won’t pay for that so… people die.
The situation in the video had me instinctively wanting to brake before the pedestrian appeared. Just something about entering a junction at speed, without full visibility of what might be happening in the broader picture.
If course that might just partly be because the specifics of this particular junction are unfamiliar to me - maybe the driver in this video traverses that junction every day, and maybe there are always vehicles stopped like they are in the video, and normally it’s all clear for the left lane, so I suppose there could be some assumption of normality thing going on, but still, my right foot was lifting to brake on first watch.
Agree. Cause and effect is a property of the real world. Blame is a different thing.
The two things might frequently overlap, and people might say things like ‘the weather was to blame’, meaning the weather caused some thing to happen or not happen, but in the narrower context of road traffic incidents, cause and blame are not necessarily aligned, and blame isn’t necessarily always appropriate (and indeed seeking to always assign blame just leads to silly declarations that people should have anticipated something that nobody could possibly predict).
In a Risk Management function, we always used to test our document with ‘what if a meteorite…’ - usually just to test an extreme and underline that there are risks you simply cannot prevent.
What if you’re crossing a bridge and a meteorite suddenly destroys the supporting pier, causing the bridge to collapse and your car to fall into a ravine?
Plenty of cause to talk about - a rock fell from the sky; impact deformed steel beams; gravity caused things to fall; the driver was injured by impact on pointy rocks, etc.
But where is blame? Is the driver at fault for not anticipating a meteorite? Is the bridge designer at fault for not making an indestructible bridge? Is NASA at fault for not detecting the meteor and predicting where and when it would strike?
The more constrained a situation is, the slower you should drive. It doesn’t need to be a complex calculation, just factors like having a limited view, nowhere to swerve to etc.
That said, that doesn’t mean that all collisions can be avoided, and this is one example of one, so I agree the driver is not at fault.
I would have slowed down a bit approaching this crossing, but I still think I would not have been able to brake in time.
And this is the nub. If the driver was doing 30 and them approaching the same ambiguous situation at anything above about 10mph would have still resulted in the collision, then this was not a problem the driver could have prevented. Only the pedestrian can prevent presenting the driver with an insoluble problem.
Sometimes you do. The X problem may have been temporary, but I think you may still only be able to see the post itself and not reactions to it, though I’m not sure. And whether something on Facebook is visible without an account may depend on the settings and on whether it’s at the top of the posts and on whether Facebook has decided that day to cover most of the screen with a demand to sign up that refuses to close; the amount of screen covered and whether the demand can be minimized and if so how much seems to depend on the mood Facebook itself is in at the time.
Except it’s not very ambiguous at all! A vehicle stopped at a pedestrian crossing is one of the most unambiguous situations you’ll encounter as a driver. By far the most likely reason is it’s stopped because the PEDESTRIAN crossing has a PEDESTRIAN crossing it.
To keep on driving the same speed when you know there is likely a pedestrian in front of you is very reckless behavior.
Really? No.
The vehicle could have stalled.
The driver could be texting and not seen the light turn green.
The driver could be turning right and there is a vehicle out pedestrian in the way.
These and other possible reasons.
No they could not, look at the video it’s not a junction it’s a pedestrian crossing, there is no road going away to the left or right, it’s a crossing in the middle of the block.
A vehicle stopped at a pedestrian crossing like that is probably stopped there because there is a pedestrian in front of them
None of those other reasons are excuses for passing a truck stopped at a crosswalk.
Maybe I’m wrong, can you show me the laws listing situations where hitting a pedestrian in a cross walk is allowed?
If you are driving, you @TriPolar , and the pedestrian jumps out from the sidewalk and into your car, there’s nothing you can do to prevent it. And it’s not your fault.
Right?
I mean it’s sad and very unfortunate, but it’s not your fault.
Right?
No, it wouldn’t be my fault because I’d have no way of knowing that a pedestrian who could see me would jump into the path of my car. But if a truck was stopped at a crosswalk I would know that a pedestrian might step out from behind that truck and it would be my fault. In that situation even if I wanted to get around that truck I would have proceeded at a very slow speed that would not have an endangered an idiot who stepped out from behind a truck.
Yeah, agree also, and I also think the driver has right of way. I wonder how this would be adjudicated. Hence, the thread discussion…
Do we know exactly when the light turned green? (I cannot view the video anymore, so I don’t know.)
We don’t. In the video it is constantly green.