Who would make the best US Senator, Katie Porter, Adam Schiff, or Barbara Lee?

Sometimes I really wonder if they’re truly this blinded By partisanship, or just don’t care. This is Rep. Luna, who brought the censure vote to the floor:

"The American people do not trust Congress. The cyclical pattern of lies has worn down the credibility of every institution and every official in the United States government. You see it, I see it,” Luna said on the House floor during debate Wednesday.

“If we run away from the opportunity to hold this man accountable there is only one fault, and that is of ourselves,” she continued. “We will betray the people who trusted us and sent us here to do the right thing, we will be responsible of any shred of justice in this body, and we will reject the duty that we swore an oath to protect upon taking office.”

Was George Santos too busy criming to get censured for lies? He’s just the most egregious, not the only, member of the Republican House who thrives on lies. Gah! It makes me furious that our political system has come to this.

From Schiff’s statement on the House floor today:

Today, I wear this partisan vote as a badge of honor, knowing that I have lived my oath, knowing that I have done my duty to hold a dangerous and out-of-control president accountable — and knowing that I would do so again in a heartbeat if the circumstances should ever require it.

Yeah, I think this just became his biggest calling card in the California Democratic primary.

The fact that Schiff is being censured for something he said years ago and they’re ignoring Santos who only got elected by lying about every aspect of his background, and committed multiple serious crimes, that is the reason the public doesn’t trust Congress.

That is the reason some distrust congress.

Others distrust congress because of congress’ space lasers and weather control devices, rampant vampirism, pedophilic pizza parlors, their failure to not simultaneously vote down all health care bills while also provide them with free healthcare, and, yes, not censure politicians for purely partisan nonsense.

We are not one as a nation :no_mouth:.

Sorry, I meant rational people.

I should know by now that it is no longer something automatically inferred, for obvious reasons. :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

It was a partisan vote. All Republicans voted for it, except 6 who sat on the Ethics Committee who voted present. (Voting otherwise would be prejudging Schiff if he came up in front of them.)

This isn’t, the “Political system”. This is the Republican Party lining up behind Trump. Recall that the chair of Trump’s 2016 was Paul Manafort, later convicted on 8 counts, including conspiracy to defraud the government and witness tampering. Mueller, appointed by Trump’s Department of Justice, indicted 13 Russians for election interference and threw a number of criminals behind bars. Schiff was censored for doing his job.

Part of media’s business model is to be even handed. But we can be accurate. This isn’t a problem with a nebulous political system. The problem lies in one party, the Republican Party.

FYI–after Dellums said he didn’t want the military, they acceded and withdrew EVERY military base from Bay Area, causing vast loss of jobs.

The bulk of them, yes. The big Coast Guard facilities remain - Coast Guard Island on Alameda and the training center in Petaluma. Also Moffett Field outside Sunnyvale is still just a little mixed-use after being transferred from the Navy to NASA, with some Air National Guard activity.

Here’s a discussion of military base closures in the Bay Area during the 1990s, part of the peace dividend. No confirmation that Ron Dellums was the cause. Reddit - Dive into anything

Here’s wiki on Base Realignment and Closure, from a national perspective: Base Realignment and Closure - Wikipedia

As an example Naval Air Station Alameda was closed in 1997, following the 1993 independent review. Naval Air Station Alameda - Wikipedia
It was transferred to the City of Alameda for redevelopment: progress has been slow: since the 1970s it has become hard to build things in the US. But I wouldn’t blame Dellums for that.

Travis AFB is still there. (Fairfield)

The Naval Postgraduate School is still in Monterey.

Monterey is not the Bay Area

so why else would the Navy close the only 4-carrier port on West Coast, as well as a dozen other bases, which required a major redeployment?

Money. For one thing the carrier fleet was shrinking (also part of the peace dividend). In 1991 there were fifteen active fleet carriers, in 1992 fourteen. In 1993 when Alameda NAS was designated to close that was reduced to thirteen. In 1994 twelve. Alameda NAS closed in 1997. Today, there are eleven. A four-carrier port in he SF Bay was really no longer necessary and such facilities are expensive to maintain.

For another you had better coverage on the West by using the the existing ports at the extreme ends of the lower 48 - San Diego and Bremerton. SF in the middle was the obvious odd man out if you’re going to close major, expensive facilities.

I won’t say local politics had no influence. I have no doubt some of the military brass took some humor in shafting the Bay Area for all of its anti-military rhetoric. But really it was the obvious choice to close down. If I was playing a computer game modeling Navy management (yeesh, slow day), I suspect I’d have made the same choice. Drawing down forces, cutting expenses - yep, dafty-in-the-middle was the obvious geographic choice.

not to mention an expensive location!