Who ya gonna call? [Is there any proof of ghosts, demons, or evil spirits?]

You are wrong on all assumptions. Now tell me about your experience with these things.

Don’t take my word for it … if you can’t trust the wife of a recent President of the United States … who can you trust? I offer as my evidence the testimony of Mrs Hillary Clinton: http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/eleanor-roosevelt-talked-to-hillary-this-week/

From the same article:

Mr Quatro has to go rest now … he’s tired from searching for proof all day :wink:

That is really laughable, there is nothing on what Bill said that does not point again to **imaginary **conversations. No evidence whatsoever that she was referring to actual spirits. What you found was more evidence of the tongue in cheek that Bill has.

And then, dude, you had to reach for World *Nut *Daily, where birtherism and other conspiracy theories against Democrats thrive.

I developed a chart to roll up personalities for D&D characters using standard astrological signs and planets. I figured it might be useful for players who find themselves always playing the same character. Give them a few behavior hooks.

I set up a table at a small gathering selling one personality for a quarter. There was a poster stating exactly what I’d be doing for those 25 cents. Only a few people were interested.

Those few people seemed very interested. I wasn’t quite sure why they were following the dice rolls so avidly until one of them nodded and said with satisfaction, “Oh, that’s so true! That’s just me all over.” And her friends nodded. They were all very pleased with the personality sheets that I handed them. People just want to believe so badly.

I think I used the seventy-five cents to get a hot dog. It was that long ago.

No. You just made an accusation-back it up with facts.

If you searched all day - and that was the proof you came up with - well, you really wasted your day.

IF the story as quoted is true - the best it would prove is that Hillary believed it - it still would not actually be evidence for the ghost in question.

As it stands - thats not what one would call a reputable site.

www.snopes.com has no information and they would know, right? or would they?

but it’s easy enough to check out: I believe her story that she is a Methodist, but she is keeping company with some strange people: http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1018.html

I don’t think voices are friendly little ghost … they are demons, they are lying spirits, they are like electricity, they will take the least path of resistance and this is proof that a person we all know as the ex-Secretary of State and present wife of President Bill Clinton and being vetted to run for the highest office in our land is talking with demons.

Proof? You want to see one? You want a picture? You want to go higher than Hillary Clinton talking to one?

Will this come up again and again? What will be the excuse next time? What about the story of bullets chasing her down the run way after landing in Bosnia or wherever she said it happened. That excuse was a classic.

If she makes it to the next round of who’s going to run for the highest office in America then love truly does not see the blemish’s.

You are wrong on all your assumptions. Now please stop telling us about your experience with these things.

She’s admitted that her memory was faulty.

As for talking to Elanor Roosevelt, those were imaginary conversations. There’s nothing supernatural about that.

It won’t. People are shallow and gullible, but they can find better crap to talk about than this. Clinton wasted her own time if she saw a psychic, but this is even worse: you’re rambling about demons and invisible nonsense, and enough people take that shit seriously that the First Lady had to deny seeing a psychic so she wouldn’t be accused of consorting with the Devil. :rolleyes:

I don’t make assumptions.

You leap to conclusions.

Care to stop with this sniping, and actually say something concrete?

Care to identify a medium who has channeled a ghost who actually produced knowledge that only the ghost and one living relative could have known? I gave the example of the ghost of my father telling the combination to his Post Office Box. Only my father and I knew that. No medium can accomplish this. No one has ever won the James Randi challenge.

Instead of just sneering, can you actually produce something? I challenge you, but I’m not going to pay any million dollars.

You cannot accomplish such a feat. No one can. There is no evidence for communication with the spirit world.

To you it may say nothing but to others a lot.

You make tons of them. I explored a few in one of my last posts.

Gee. A rabidly Right Wing Fundamentalist Christian website that hates Hilary Clinton and casts every story as a fight between Good (them) and Evil (everyone else).

Sorry. Not credible.

Ri-i-i-i-i-ight. Your source is a nutcase website that casts everything in terms of a fear of the “New World Order.” :rolleyes:

How about something from a genuine news source that even comes close to supporting your drek?

It certainly says something to me, but I doubt it’s what you intended.

Are these “others” you speak of living in this material world? None of them seem to be posting on this message board.

I do produce a lot of evidence but it is summarily dismissed without reading or even looking at it.

Here is a real medium who talks to dead people. Watch her on TV.
http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/long-island-medium

There were three real psychics from England several years ago that challenged Randi. They even offered to not take the money if Randi would allow the test to be video taped in its entirely and shown to the public. Randi refused and no real psychic has ever asked again.

I do not sneer at others whatever they believe. Never

The real evidence of separation of mind and body is the placebo effect. Mind over matter. Also the reverse of it when people die after being cursed and believing it. In both cases the mind causes the body to change. If there were nothing but body and brain this would not happen. The brain does not contain not have a mind of it own. NDEs show that the mind can live without the brain or body.

Enough of these stupid stories of yours-I want a cite for this.

If you would like evidence of the research on NDEs by Phds, and Doctors of Medicine you can read about it here.

I post this all the skeptics do is say not without reading and without evidence. Maybe you will do better.

Can you explain how a blind from birth person can see when out of body.