Now I kinda want to see this. ![]()
No suitable role? Not even Jar-Jaromir?
There’s even a scene where Kylo Ren is whining about how Rei is giving him a hard time, and General Hux walks in and steals the show. I was sitting there in the theatre thinking, “Wow! He’s not even good at being a bad guy.” When did you ever see one of the random Imperial Moffs be more competent than Darth Vader? Never! It’s all meant to underline that Kylo Ren barely knows what he is doing, so later in the movie he tries to over-compensate for his mediocre supervillainy.
That is brilliant! Yes, Rylo is the Columbine or Sandy Hook murderers. I know it doesn’t get any respect, but the Nick Cage movie 8mm had an utterly dull, ordinary looking murderer as well. He loses his leather mask and asks “What was I supposed to look like?”
Oh jeez, Jar Jar by a country mile. The only way you could even ask such a question is if you haven’t seen TPM, which the OP has not.
A more apt comparison would be Anakin and Kylo. (though I suppose that path actually starts during the second prequel)
They should be very similar… but you can really notice how bad the director screwed the pooch on the first one.
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I get it, I just don’t find it especially interesting or compelling. Or, more specifically, I didn’t find his character interesting or compelling. Maybe in some other context (or with a different actor), it might be. Was a wet thud for me in TFA though.
He isn’t supposed to be the big bad though. I think that the filmmakers made that super clear. He’s a child and acts childishly and no one in the first order takes him seriously. He is dangerous, but he’s dangerous the way an angry 10 year old with a gun is dangerous, not the way an army Ranger is dangerous.
Edit: I should read the whole thread before I respond! Well said other folks.
Imagine a young Jeff Goldblum, but as pictured by an anti-Semite.
Really?
That soon?
I think Kylo Ren is a great villain and I love how he’s portrayed as vulnerable. I’m looking forward to seeing how the character evolves over the next two films.
Jar Jar is the most horrifying thing I’ve ever seen on film, a clear indication that Lucas lost his mind.
Well, Jar-Jar was supposed to be a lighthearted element in a revival of an old-fashioned space adventure, and a demonstration of the exciting state of the art in special effects animation; while Kylo was supposed to be a sullen, vicious figure, fanatically obsessed both with an impossibly idealized image of the Star Wars Empire and it’s biggest figures at their prime, and with the aggrandizement of his position and his needs; reacting with disproportionate rage when he meets even the slightest resistance…
And he’s also got sillier hair. 
Why did kylo look out of place in the new Star Wars when he took off his helmet? Because his real mom and dad were from somewhere else.
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/209580-spaceballs-ce-nose-gag-fixed/
his real dad and mom were clearly Lone Starr and princess Vespa from Space Balls
Eh, Driver’s features are larger (which is what gives him the gawky appearance) and the photo fails to capture the profile of his nose which is nothing at all like Ford’s. But his mouth is wider, ears are larger, nose is wider, etc. Hold your hand over one side and the other and they’re nothing alike, visual tricks aside.
Plus it’s (probably intentionally) done in black and white to wash out differences and hide the difference in skin tone.
If a movie shows a weapon like a bowcaster and goes through a lot of effort to show you that it is really powerful, by having it fling people around who get hit with it unlike regular blasters, what do you call the guy who takes a hit from it and keeps fighting, and later punches the wound to psyche himself up before combat? Also, if powerful, well-trained, and experienced force users like Yoda and Vader are shown deflecting blaster bolts to miss them and most Jedis aren’t strong enough to do it and have to use a saber to deflect, what do you call a new character who can grab a blaster bolt and hold it in place while he holds a conversation, and only release it when he’s done?
I think a lot of people are ignoring some very simple stuff from the movie.
Jar Jar was a terrible idea executed terribly and given way too much screen time. The weird racist undertones don’t help, but really he’s annoying, has no reason to be in the scenes that he’s in, and gets so much screen time you can’t just tune him out. Kylo Ren is a good villain who has more complexity and story shown than ‘I TURN UP TO FIGHT THE HEROS AND I HAVE A DOUBLE SABER’ Maul or ‘I LEAD THE ENEMY AND HAVE FOUR SABERS’ Grievous. There’s really no comparison in the two characters.
The scene where Vader is force choking a guy and Grand Moff Tarkin verbally slaps him down like he’s a petulant child, showing who’s actually in charge. The vibe of that scene is “Vader, cut it out, there’s work for the grownups here”.
No contest. I personally didn’t find Kylo Ren annoying at all…I thought the character was interesting and well done. But even if I found him mildly annoying it’s nothing to how epically annoying Jar Jar Binks was. They aren’t even in the same universe for annoying. Hell, Jar Jar is in his own epic universe for being one of the (or perhaps 5 of the) most annoying characters in history.