It is all about me.
Improper cruise control.
About covers it.
FYI, my turn signal is not a request, it is a warning.
If you have your turn signal on, I’ll wait. But if you’re some 100yds beyond the last car in the group you’ve just passed, and if there isn’t a vehicle on your right, then I’m done waiting, and I’m also figuring you for a brain fart who’s forgotten their turn signal is on.
Fair enough?
Good luck at WalMart.
This reflects my position. Nobody is obligated to move faster than the speed limit, except maybe if they’re blocking the path of a real emergency vehicle.
However, cars should not be allowed to remain in the passing lane when they’re finished passing. I think it’s the law, in most places.
Usually, when the car behind you is a little closer than the car in the right lane is sufficiently far along for you to get over. You’re increasing the space between you and the car following you by getting over then, after all. Use your turn signal a little earlier than that.
You can see that car on the right in your rear view mirror? Probably safe to move over.
Yes. This is why the tailgater in this or really any situation is always the worst asshole.
But if the car behind you is tailgating, you could be farther ahead of the adjacent car and still dangerously/rudely close. That guy has done nothing wrong; you shouldn’t pass the fuck-you from the tailgater over to him.
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Distracted driver: Putting others in danger by their lack of awareness.
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Tailgating driver: Putting others in danger by intentionally driving at an unsafe distance behind another driver (in order to intimidate them into moving).
The deliberate act of endangering others (tailgating) is “worse” IMO.
The speed limit was 65.
Here’s the kicker which makes this stick in my memory:
The tailgater was WAS a cop - in a black & white CHP sedan. With light bar.
What do you do when you see a cop in the rear view? Yep. With a 5’ space, you’ve got less than a tenth of a second to NOT do that.
I give the prize to the cop - he should have dropped back, started with the lights (this was bright daylight), then siren, if she still didn’t notice - I’ve seen idiots oblivious to a light bar in the rear view zipping down the road - but the cop was at least far enough back to avoid collision. This guy - I will never guess his thinking.
Oh - the way to deal with tailgaters:
Slow down.
Either they get the idea that the time they “save” by going faster will be wasted at the first stop light they encounter and drop back (whereupon you resume your normal speed) or they will pass.
Oh - and you don’t get to stay in lane 1 when someone wishes to pass.
Indiana has/had a truly sensible (it is rare, but happens) law of “no more than 5”: if there are more than 5 vehicles stacked up behind you, you are REQUIRED BY LAW to pull over as soon as is safe. There are some nasty 2 laners in the south which wind around the hills - there are no places to pass for 10-20 miles in places.
When I was a younger man, tailgaters would whip me up into a raging froth. My usual practice was to slam on my brakes and give them a little scare. I’d get a moment of joy when I saw the look of shock on their face as they slam on their brakes. Almost every time they would start tailgating again!
I’ve since decided that tailgaters must be morons who don’t know what they are doing, and there is nothing I can do to change that.
I’m getting angry just thinking about it. I’m going to go look for some tailgaters to beat up.
Blundering, unaware drivers: 49 percent at fault.
Asshole tailgater: 51 percent.
The person going slow in the fast lane is 100% at fault in my books. It’s a four lane highway. When someone is approaching you from behind in the passing lane, move the fuck over. I don’t care what speed you’re traveling at; move the fuck over.
The only possible exception to this is if both lanes are completely clogged and you’re in the fast lane keeping up with the line of traffic ahead of you, meaning the tailgater has no where to go even if you move over.
If I want to drive 10 KPH faster than you, on a clear 4 lane highway and you’re blocking me in the fast lane it’s your fault. Move the fuck over you inconsiderate and unaware jerk. Those* are* the rules, actually.
Yes, but I am performing a reverse tailgate move on the car on the right I’ve moved to right and in front of at too close of a distance. And possibly startled them in the process.
But you’re still farther in front of them than the car on the left, and you’re also presumably travelling faster than them, so your distance will be increasing. If you use your signal, they shouldn’t be startled (and if they startle that easily, they shouldn’t even be driving).
Plus, if you wait, the car behind you may cut them off even worse.
I’m with Bill on this.
While my right signal is on as I’m passing that car, I won’t move over until there’s a reasonably safe distance in front of the car I just passed - by “reasonable” I mean about 1 second or a little more following distance. Certainly not 2 seconds - we can all agree that, while ideal as a minimum safe following distance, with traffic congestion such as there would be in this scenario, anyone with 2 seconds in front of them is going to quickly lose that because another car will take that big space in front of you. Right? I think 1 sec or 1.2 sec is reasonable.
If the tailgater cuts to the right in that instance, it is the (former) tailgater who creates the unsafe situation and should be at fault if an accident were caused by his move. I have clearly communicated my intent to the car behind me. To the car I’ve just passed, that signal is a request to him to ask him, may I move over?
I’m not following two things in this thread:
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are people really saying that if I’m going the speed limit in the fast lane - that I am breaking the law by not moving over? Not that the law should be that, but the law IS that. I fail to see how anyone going the speed limit - should/would be required to move over (legally) as this implies that someone else would necessarily be breaking the law.
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not sure I follow this turn signal request thing. I was under the impression that turn signals were always supposed to be use to signal what you were intending to do, but never should be relied upon by another driver. Is this incorrect? I truly am not understanding what is being said here.
Did you get your driver’s license from a Cracker Jack box, or what? Of course you’re supposed to move over. ESPECIALLY if you’re toodling along at exactly the speed limit.
In Ontario:
I don’t know if it’s a law, it would be hard to enforce maybe, but move the fuck over!
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Yes. The law in most (all?) states require you to move right and allow faster traffic to pass. People have gotten tickets while doing the speed limit for this reason. (ETA: they were ticketed for failing to move right and let faster traffic pass them on the left.)
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When I pass a slower vehicle and intend to merge right, in front of it, my signal shows my intent. You’re correct, other drivers should not rely on others’ turn signals: you do not want to assume a driver is going to turn/merge based on his signal being on.
Continuing: in the scenario I used upthread, with me passing a slower car while a faster car has come up behind me (think multi-lane interstate highway here, and I’m in the #1 or far-left lane), I will turn my right signal on as I am next to the car I’m passing, to tell the driver behind me that after I am done passing the slower car, I intend to move right and out of his way so he can pass.
My turn signal in this case is somewhat of a request (to me, anyway), that I’d like to move to the right and in front of him, and I won’t be able to give him as much room as I’d like to, because the fast car behind me is being aggressive (a main context in this thread).
I guess I could’ve just told you to read the entire thread, to understand the context involved. 
I assume you are being sarcastic - I do tend to move over, but obviously - the ones passing me are the ones breaking the law. I am not “toodling” along at the the speed limit - I’m driving at the maximum legal speed.
Personally when the road is relatively empty - I think if I am doing the speed limit - I shouldn’t have to move over - they should pass me. If there appears to be traffic wanting to drive that speed - then yes - obviously I will move over, but for a single driver - who is breaking the law - screw it - he should go around me.
Are you saying you actually believe that web page is saying (and granted it isn’t NOT SAYING it) that people going an illegal rate of speed should be accommodated by having others get out of their way? I agree that it make sense in many cases to do. But you actually believe (whether it would be enforceable or not) that that is the law (or at least what the web page is saying)?
In other words - you don’t believe there is an implied “as long as all other laws regarding speeding are being followed” hanging over that entire page?
BTW - I didn’t get my license in a cracker jack box.