Right. Which means it wasn’t his fault that all the bungholes who came after him distorted what he said all to hell.
Well, if you’re gonna be like that, then I’ll vote for George Washington.
The US has been involved more wars and supported more insurrections in the name of freedom, namely economic freedom, than all other nations combined since its inception. This during a time of highly efficient killing apparati including nuclear bombs, the only nation to have ever exercised such weapons.
And Washington was not a Christian, but a deist
And the winner is …
You kill Adam (another fictional character?). So there’s no human race and therefore no one in the future to go back and kill him.
Well, if you’re gonna be like that, then my vote is for Eve. She’s the one who ate the apple first, breaking the spell of innocence.
Screw that: if we assume the existence of the one we’re gonna kill, let’s go for God. If we remove the Creator (not just start off with no Creator) then there’s no cosmos, ergo no lives lost.
As for the harmfulness of Christianity, it just takes looking at various nonChristian, nonmonotheist tyrants in history to see how goofy that is. A tyrant doesn’t need an evangelical religion to go on a mass-murder spree. Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, Hannibal, Caesar, Hitler, Mao–none of these leaders were motivated by a desire to spread the word of the Lord. It’s bizarre to suggest that without monotheism, Queen Isabella would have been less murderous herself.
Certainly I’ll agree that when the times are right for a fascist dictator, one will come along, but I think any German fascism would have been far less evil without Hitler’s particularly twisted world view in charge of it. Rohm might have settled for making the trains run on time.
If we’re going to take out Jesus, let’s go further back and take out that delusional jerk Abraham. Better yet, let’s prevent Archangel Gabriel from intervening as Abraham kills his only son Isaac during his schizophrenic fugue state (ref: Genesis 22:1-24), thus halting the rise of Monotheism and sparing the Amaleks from destruction (ref: I Samuel 15:1-34), not to mention the karmic blowback visited upon the early Israelities for inventing genocide (ref: II Samuel 28:16-18).
No Jews, no Christians, no Muslims. Untold billions saved!
And then they died, and the killing in their names stopped. Christ created an evil that killed long after he died, killed people he had no idea existed and continues to kill to this day. And to do many other nasty things; but the OP only asked about death. And the evil of Hitler was at least to part due to Christianity; the Holocaust of the Jews was simply one more Christian atrocity against them. And all the evils of Islam and the other religions descended from Christianity also count.
It’s not the “distortions” that are the problem. It’s the people who try to make Christianity out to be something nice who are doing the distorting. The beliefs he pushed inevitable led to evil; they logically demand mass slaughter and conversion by force., and logically encourage ruthlessness. “Kill them all and let God sort them out” is a perfectly sensible, ethical statement if you take Christianity seriously; after all, this world doesn’t really matter and the innocents go the Heaven. You’re just doing them a favor.
Those wars were also heavily motivated by Christianity. Among other examples, in the Cold War we were fighting godless Communism, recall? And I despise the “founding fathers” you won’t get me to defend them.
And deism is an offshoot of Christianity. Eliminating Christianity would eliminate all such.
As far as I know there’s no evidence they existed at all. And genocide appears to predate humanity; troops of chimpanzees will engage in a small scale version.
Oh come on. Then we should have hoped for the elimination of Judaism, given that Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism ? Are you willing to go that far ?
And what about the atheists? Given the scientific development under the umbrella of Christianity , would we have any atheism at all today, or would we be an ignorant polytheistic society performing atrocities under the leadership of people like Caesar or Alexander ?
I’d eliminate ALL religion if I could, but as far as I know there’s no founder of Judaism who is even as historically real as Jesus was. And Judaism isn’t nearly as dangerous as Christianity, because it doesn’t spread and convert by the sword the way Christianity does.
Atheism is implied by the evidence; Christianity has nothing to do with it.
The advancement of science has been against the intense opposition of Christianity. I’d expect us to be a more advanced society not less.
I’m fairly skeptical that preventing the formation of a major religion would have any real impact on human butchering through history. Leaving aside the point that the vast majority of large scale killing is primarily politically motivated and not purely religious, which I think it good enough, there’s also the fact that the missing religion would leave a gigantic void in history. Whatever would end up filling it, whether a different religion or some other ideology, would likely be on a similar brutality level. Given how complex society is, it’s useless to pretend we would know what would happen with such a huge change.
The biggest problem with de-existing a religious figure is that there are so many your actions might end up with more deaths due to older religions. De-exist Jesus and eliminate the early Christian cult, the Roman Empire never takes up Christianity, instead being divided into pagan cults (Sol Invictus, Mithras, Ahura Mazda and whatnot). I have no doubt that blood would continue to be shed on their account, perhaps even moreso than with Abrahamic religions; you can easily imagine the cults clashing with each other and Sassanid Zoroastrianism. Christianity superseded paganism in short order (no doubt due to a fair amount of violence), but I wonder if it would not be more harmful in the long term to leave these pagan believes intact to evolve and clash with each other.
P.S. - to any mods, is it possible to edit my OP? Just realised I spelt ‘existence’ incorrectly. :smack:
With Eve out, there would be no humanity at all.
But you’d save us all by taking out the serpent instead. 
I see no reason to think so. It’s unlikely they would have spread as Christianity did, nor did they have a moral imperative to destroy all but themselves. Christianity due to it’s worldview is innately more virulent, oppressive and aggressive than most religions.
The problem with that is that we’d probably all be muslim right now, if Christianity didn’t exist to fight with Islam during the Middle Ages. Is that really better?
Given the popularity of Sol Invictus/Mithras amongst the military it’s possible to see how the spread of these cults (which, like Christianity may evolve a militant aspect in order to survive and propagate) would have involved violence. Particularly when one considers that much of Christian world view owes a great deal to earlier pagan beliefs.
@ Blalron; Without Jesus (an Islamic prophet) or early Christian theology to expand on it’s arguable that Islam would be very different, if it even continued to exist at all.
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Hitler was anti-Christian and heavily influenced by neo-paganism.
You’re pretty ignorant of theology didn’t Jesus say to turn the other cheek?
What was so wrong about the Cold War may I say? If not Communism would have triumphed and would kill tens of millions of people more then in our world. Also you despise the Founding Fathers? They were regardless of religion the beacons of liberty and freedom in the world: are you a communist or something?
You’ll still have several other religions.
Christianity is anti-genocide and killing in it’s actual form.
Why would you eliminate all religion. What’s the point of converting people to atheism anyway?
The Christian God of an all encompassing universal deity is far more science oriented then the pagan gods. Science advanced far more in the Middle Ages then Roman times.
You seem to ignore the fact that Christianity is a religion of love in it’s real form and promotes helping people and caring for them.
As for who I would want non-existent my answer would be Gavrilo Princip. His assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife caused World War I causing the death of ten million. He also indirectly caused the Russian Revolution and Stalinist terror of the purges and gulags, Hitler’s rise to power and World War II, the Holocaust, the Cold War and it’s hundred bloody little wars, and with the breakup of the Ottomans Islamic fundamentalism. His death would have saved the deaths of 100 million people possibly more counting the unborn.
There wouldn’t be any Islam without Christianity. It’s true there may have been another two completely different titanic religions that caused as much or more misery as Islam/Christianity but it’s doubtful.
What makes Christianity so aggressively malignant isn’t militarism, but it’s basic worldview, which is notably unusual. A militaristic religion might be a danger to it’s neighbors, but Christianity’s worldview impels it to be a danger to all the world.
No Christianity, no Islam.