Why are Cats and Dogs Sacred in the USA?

Based on a reaction to this this thread I wonder, why have we elevated certain animals above others?

Beef is standard in most grocery stores although practioners of the Hindu faith avoid eating beef, many holding the cow as a honored part of society.

Other cultures may consider cat or dog food rather than companions. The animals are sometimes raised on farms as we raise cattle. Most citizens of the USA won’t eat this type of meat.

Hunting and fishing are considered sport by some, yet some of us have fish as pets, others have birds. Why are we able to cross the line on some pets and not others?

This case was cited where bird lovers are pitted against cat lovers.

I wonder if the bird lovers eat chicken or turkey. I wonder if the dog and cat lovers eat beef, or turkey or any other animal flesh.

If so, why? What makes your particular animal better than others of the animal kingdom?

I’m reminded of a Far Side cartoon. Two birds are in a cage, watching two children about to pull apart a wishbone from their turkey dinner. Says one bird to the other, ‘And now for the gruesome finale.’

We don’t eat cats and dogs in the U.S. because most of us descend from European ancestors. They tended to eat pigs, cattle, fowl, and various game animals and fish, so we do to. (The Sioux, I think, ate dog; but the White Man seemed resistant to taking on Indian ways, as was discussed in another thread.)

Cats and Dogs–dogs especially–relate to people much differently than cows or sheep. A dog can pick up cues and respond to you in a way a cow never will be able to. So can a cat, but to a much lesser degree.

The one animal that does disturb me is the pig, a highly intelligent creature. Maybe the goat as well, but I don’t eat goat. Cows don’t bother me at all.

RICK: Oh, so they are, are they? Well, tell me, Neil. Who invented the internal combustion engine? Was it Porky the Pig? No, it was Lincoln Rawls, wasn’t it?! And the Theory of Relativity. Was Pythagoras a pig? No, he was a Greek, wasn’t he? So tell me, Neil. You’re the expert. What’s the major piggie contribution to civilization? It’s bacon, isn’t it? Bacon and rooling around in the mud. Look out, Michaelangelo, here comes the new piggie Renaissance!

:smiley:

What’s that from?

You obviously haven’t seen “Babe”, a documentary from a few years back.

The Young Ones – ‘Time’

I can’t imagine that dogs and cats are good sources of food for humans. Both are carnivores, and the amount of meat you would get from a cat is not worth the efforts. Dogs are human companions-I would as soon eat a child as a dog.

Cats and dogs have developed a symbiotic relationship with man. Dogs have helped out in the grunt work, while cats have helped out with vector (rodent) control, which gives us better health.

Other animals such as birds and fish that are common pets really haven’t worked themselves into human society as helpers (though some birds have to some very limited extent (mining-canary, hunting- falcon, message delivery- carrier pigeon).

MMMMMMMMMMMM Child Scrummy! We’re having one for Christmas dinner.

We’re sentimental about them ever since the plague. Trained apes just don’t fill the void.

And similarly, I’m in no rush to eat falcon.

For one thing, carnivores (which are in practice often indiscriminate omnivores, like dogs & raccoons) tend toward a lot of toxin bio-accumulation. If you must eat the meat of bear, hawk, or dog, OK, but avoid the liver for your own sake.

Falcons are, like horses, “noble creatures” by my cultural lights. They serve in ways other than being eaten.

Carrier pigeons also count as noble in my mind. I have no objection to eating common wild pigeons, though.

Would you eat a New York City pigeon?

Dare ya!

We’ve done threads before on foods that are gross by other standards. It’s just cultural training. What’s a delicacy in one culture could be taboo in another, or simply thought of as being disgusting.

There’s no rational reason for many food taboos, but some are functional. I’ve made the point before that the Hindu prohibition against eating beef ensures that they’ve got work animals around to help with the farming. If there wasn’t such a strong prohibition against eating them, then they could have really screwed themselves when there was a famine. Some people starving because they don’t eat the cattle is better than almost everyone starving because there aren’t any work animals left when conditions get better. You couldn’t support a population density as big as India’s with just hand labor, and tractors aren’t a viable replacement for most places even now.

I knew I was pretty much acclimated here when my stomach rumbled while walking through the fish section at a big supermarket in Tokyo. It was pretty smelly by US standards; not a nasty putrescent stench, just fishy. Most Westerners would have wrinkled their noses, but it made me hungry.

I’m surprised that sashimi and sushi caught on in the US, but I’m not surprised that horse didn’t. I’d bet that horse is prohibited from human consumption in most jurisdictions in the US, and a lot of people think of them as work animals, companions, cute, friendly, etc. rather than as food. Most of the rest of the world doesn’t have a problem with chowing down on Flicka, though; horse is served in much of Europe and Asia.

Japanese eat just about any kind of slimy nasty gunk you can think of. A lot of that is sea food. I can cope with lots of it, but some of the slime makes me gag, even if the taste and smell isn’t objectionable. Among meats, horse, game meats, and occasionally whale are available, and are often served raw. I’ve personally had raw pheasant, wild boar, deer, horse, and whale, along with a bunch of raw seafood of all descriptions.

Stuff about American food that kind of grosses out the Japanese is that everything is all mixed together into an unappetizing mess by their standards. Pouring gunk over rice, for example, is both gross and makes it hard to eat with chopsticks. Beef is considered to be a greasy meat, so many prefer pork, especially so when it’s ground meat. Most Japanese would say that there aren’t enough vegetables or enough variety in a typical meal, the portions are way too big, and there’s too much fat and grease in everything.

Just about any two cultures you compare, you’re going to find meal practices that are mutually distasteful to downright revolting. You can usually overcome most of your food prejudices, if you want to, but there will still be some things that are hard to impossible to cope with for someone who wasn’t born to that culture, even for adventurous eaters.

Dogs and cats haven’t always been sacred here in the good 'ole U.S. of A. It wasn’t that long ago that people would simply drown a sack full of kittens to avoid having too many of the little buggers around. Even dog fighting was an acceptable way to pass the time. I suspect a lot of the reasons why dogs and cats are sacred in the United States has to do with the animal welfare movements of the 19th century.

Marc

Really? Personally, I have never, and will never consider dogs (or cats) as a food source. If the choice was between dog and child though, I would be picking dog, no contest.

Besides the symbiotic relationship with cats, dogs, and horses, there are rational reasons that they are not normal food animals.

Mainly that they are very inefficient food sources compared to these other animals. Cats have hardly any usable meat at all – you’d waste way too much time in butchering them. And dogs, too, don’t produce much meat for the amount of feed they consume. Horses require more feed, and higher quality feed than cattle, yet produce less usable meat on a carcass.

Typical feed animals such as beef, pork, chicken or turkey have been bred to be extremely efficient in turning their feed into edible meat. None of the companion animals can compare in that efficiency. (Their breeding has stressed other traits instead of meat production.)

Believe me they are delicious with a honey glazing and served with roast spuds,parsnips and all the rest of the stuff.

Don’t forget the gravy :smiley:

I just don’t dig on swine. The pig is a filthy animal. As opposed to a dog, which has personality…

Expand your list of “sacred icons” to include horses, the slaughter of which is illegal in many/most places. I don’t understand it.

My father was always bothered by pork, though he loved it. He said pigs were extremely smart, smarter than dogs.

He also said that piglets were the world’s cutest baby animals, so he had a soft spot for Wilburs.