Why are conservatives obsessed with same sex marriage?

I prefer “betwixt”, myself.

Any Republican has to placate the Religious Right bible thumpers, for political purposes. you need votes. and bible thumpers can be relied on for voting republican for gay marriage/abortion issues.

Does that mean every Republican is a Bible thumper? nope. I’d bet 20$ that Trump has paid for more abortions that anyone.

Just as Democrats have to placate their constituency on a variety of issues.

Its not like there are just 100 issues and all Republican agree on those issues, and all Democrats take the opposing viewpoint.

Amongst and whilst are common in British English.

I don’t see how I implied that. Not every Canadian Conservative voter is a single-issue voter. But some are, and they can make the margin between victory and defeat.

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here. Yes, I would prefer that my elected representatives lead the way on social justice and human rights but the fact is that public opinion changed and the people we were voting for recognized and embraced that change. That may be the second best batting order but I’ll take it.

It’s hard to fight inertia, which is what bringing about change always involves. It’s hard partly because our political system makes it so.

People like Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz are obsessed with it.

2 out of 3 of those are ancient history and irrelevant. 3 out of 3 are assholes.

And if public opinion had not changed in the last decade or so, the democrats would would still be f*** the f*gs, they can’t marry or join the military as the did up until recently.

You and the OP seem to equate Conservative/Republican with Evangelical Christians. I’m a Conservative/Republican of the “gov’t should mind its own business not tell everyone what they need to think or do” ilk. Including who you have sex with. Always have been a “whatever floats your boat” type of guy.

I had that view in 1990 and I have it today.

Just because Democrats have made a political calculation that this gay rights thing might be worth some votes, hardly makes them morally superior.

Argue with them then.

They make conservatives like you look bad.

Tell Southern conservatives to drop the marriage talk.

I agree with your complaint. But probably not in the way you expect.

What has really happened is that in the last 20-ish years an awful lot of reactionary-ism has bubbled up amongst ordinary citizens and the agenda of the right-leaning parties around the world in general and the US Republican party in particular. And for whatever reason the mainstream media has failed to call a spade a spade and has instead used the polite euphemism “conservative” to describe what’s really frothing reactionary-ism.

As a result the rest of society doesn’t really know what either term really means any more. One means everything vaguely rightist and the other is flat unused.

I for one would totally support the mainstream media and the thoughtful punditocracy clearly distinguishing between conservatism and reactionary-ism. Clothing the reactionary rabid wolf in conservative guard-dog clothing does society no good.

I was just pointing out that two guys having sex is not necessarily gay. Sheesh. If it was two guys having sex with each other then that’s probably gay. Whatever.

You had your answer in the first clause of the second post. When it comes to religious convictions, good luck convincing the people to get over it just because it looks bad politically.

~Max

I personally think that same sex marriage is a personal issue, it should not even be address politically.

Rudy Giuliani is a economic and law and order conservative, yet he was pro-same sex marriage, he had to in order to win in NYC.

Same with George Pataki in NY.

Conservatives should leave that alone, it’s old news.

If you assume that politicians operate on a purely Machiavellian basis, but admit that large swaths of the conservative electorate are vehemently opposed to same-sex marriage, it follows that conservative politicians will be “obsessed” with same-sex marriage - at least to the extent necessary to retain support among the electorate.

~Max

Fuck wrong? Have you ever seen a gay fuck film? Those guys ain’t messing around! :slight_smile:

Agreed.

Which simply moves the goalposts of the OP’s question from “Why are conservative politicians obsessed with same sex marriage?” to “Why are conservative citizens obsessed with same sex marriage?”

We’ve got threads and threads on why that is. With a few nice exemplars of the standard attitude on display upthread here.


Why our young and fairly new OP seems obsessed with posting strident "concern" threads is a different question.

Marriage is between a man and a woman. Calling a gay relationship marriage does not make it so.

The meanings of words often expand and change due to usage. This word has changed. If hundreds of millions use “marriage” to describe same sex pairings, then that is now part of that definition. Even if you complain about it, it’s still marriage.

Alls I’ saying…Conservative and Evangelical Christian Bible Thumper aren’t synonymous. I’m a Conservative and I am not obsessed with same sex marriage.