Why are fruits classified as living things?

Apples are given the species name of Malus Domestica. But I don’t think fruits in general should have species names, because they should not be considered living things in the firs place… Fruits are ovaries of plants. And an ovary of a human would not be a living thing. So why are fruits classified as living things?

Malus Domestica is the tree, not the Apple.

From Wikipedia:

Malus Domestica is the name of the tree from which the fruit of the Malus Domestica comes.

Are you kidding? Do you think Tyrannosaurus rex shouldn’t be given a species name?

You can apply a species name to any tissue, or for that matter cell, of any organism, living or dead.

Fruits (except for dried fruits) are generally alive, because they still contain living cells.

An ovary of a human being is very certainly a living thing. And it would properly be referred to as Homo sapiens tissue.

I often call my apple trees “apples.”

If I had an apple tree I’d call it an apple tree, and I’d call the red round things apples.

Surely wouldn’t call them malus domsticas.

Apple seeds are complete, living apple plants, and they are in the fruit.

Actually, that’s what I always call them. Sure, they look round and cheery, sitting on the counter, but I’ve seen them whispering to each other when they think I’m not paying attention. They’re up to something nefarious, I’m sure.

AC05, are you sure you’re not referring to wax fruit in a bowl? How can you possibly think fruit isn’t alive? Any 3-year-old will correct you. And if that 3-year-old knows about ovaries, he’ll know that they’re alive too.

Well, there is “alive” and “alive”. Fruit and ovaries are not complete living organisms in the way that a tree or a woman are. A fruit that has been picked or an ovary that has been excised will no doubt still have cells in it that are metabolizing and even perhaps dividing, but that is not going to last for long (in the way it will in the complete organism), not unless the fruit germinates, anyway.

But the OP is not referring to “complete living organisms,” only to things that are alive. Your heart and lungs are alive, but not independent organisms.

(This may lead to the slippery slope of abortion.)

On the contrary, the OP’s confusion seems to me to arise from an equivocation on precisely this point.

And throwing away an apple core is tantamount to abortion!

And all bird seed should undergo more testing. I never got a bird to grow.

I had my dog meat tested, but there’s no canine DNA in it !

The OP must be joking…

As has been said the species name refers to the whole plant, tree and apple and apple seed and all. Also, ovaries are definitely “living things”, by dint of being integral parts of living organisms. They just don’t get called homo sapiens sapiens ovariensis because that would get overload-y fast.

The question of whether an apple tree is alive hits upon the definition of “what constitutes life”, and is slightly more interesting however. But only slightly.

Yup, and this convention is widespread - if you go to a flower show, the cut flowers will be labelled according to the name of the plant that produced them. A field guide to plants will often only show details of a flower, some leaves, etc, not the whole plant. If you ask anyone “what kind of leaf is on the Canadian flag?” they’ll say Maple.

it’s a cloth leaf.

:slight_smile:

But so is a page in a printed book, so greater zoological clarity is needed. Maybe one of the mods can figure it out.

OK, if you ask anyone else.

I would say “Sugar Maple”, didn’t they accidentally print banknotes with a different species at one time?

Ah, here is the story: Canada put wrong maple leaf on 20 dollar bill