Why are libertarians so wacky?

techchick: I found it amusing and ironic that, as a flaming liberal democrat I completely agreed with 5 out of the 6 items you don’t believe in; I don’t believe them either.

I disagreed with the last (paying for a bridge on the other side of the county), counting it as an even trade for them helping build the bridge on my side of the county.

I’m even growing more uncomfortable with the ‘poverty pimps’ invading the democratic party and hijacking the liberal agenda.

I believe I have an obligation to help people in difficult or desperate circumstances, but I believe that it does them little good to merely shove a teat in their mouth.

Absent a truly free labor market and the presence of other ills such as institutionalized racism, I will reluctantly supply the teat as an alternative to letting them starve to death. However, I don’t believe that such welfare constitutes a fundamental right.


He’s the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armor, shouting ‘All Gods are Bastards!’

Okay, so in this scenario, no one should consider inventing a new product because on the off chance it doesn’t sell. With that attitude, nothing changes. If only Stephen King and Ann Rice publish books, there is no room for other authors to attempt to create a phenomenom (sp?) series of books people want to read. In your scenario, only the “popular” is acceptable, that something new (or in this case old) is considered a waste of time. Your waste of time or vote is my means by which to get out there and question the norm.

Fortunately, we do live in a country where opposition to the status quo can be challenged. It is highly conceivable that the Libertarian party gain membership and votes in the coming years. What is unfortunate, is the view that those of us that go against popular opinion are considered wacky.

As some one else mentioned, the founding fathers of our country were considered wacky and look what they did.

I often notice that difference of opinion means to many that people are weird or strange or lack some sense of reason. But without people constantly questioning the system of government or how things are done there is no progress. You can’t sit back and think that everything is hunky dory and that the two party political system is working for the people as it was intended. It simply isn’t in my view.

As I mentioned with regards to our largest school district, how does giving a tax rebate to a corporation better the community? It doesn’t, not one bit. It may temporarily bring a boost to the economy, but when a school district is considering closing schools over 5 million dollars, the same amount that will be considered a tax rebate for Intel, how is this beneficial?

In addition, the corporation should be liable for the same amount as the average corporation and citizen. In the end (and I am against taxes but this is a current reality here) the corporation benefits from paying into the school district by supporting the schools its property taxes go for, thereby securing the future of its company with better educated people.

Under Libertarian philosophy, the school your children go to is up to you. There is no doubt about what they are taught because you pay tuition to this school, there are no “corporate welfare” issues to deal with. If a school needs financial help, the people will do what it takes to help the school survive if the school is worthy in the eyes of the students and parents.

But under the current system, it’s a free for all, free for all but the tax payer. I don’t have kids I am still required to pay into the educational system. I don’t plan on having kids, but I am forced into paying for your kids education.

Public schools are just a part of the picture, but if it were me, and I truly believed in my brothers’ kids school, I would rather take that money from the local school district and put it to their kid’s school.

There are a ton of issues I could bring up, but that’s not the issue here, the issue is you see we Libertarians as nut cases. I assure you, I am pretty normal, for the most part, barring a few things one might consider odd, I am just as worthy of an opinion about our government. I just take the road differently than you and my views happen to challenge what is popular opinion.
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Hey Singledad,

That should have been spelled country, I screwed up…

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I never claimed to be perfect < grin >

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techchick68 wrote

I’m quite familiar with the business of cutting edge technology; I’ve been an integral part of a few successful Silicon Vally startups, and am just now starting a new one. What you build has to be new and has to be exciting. But most importantly it has to sell! If you build something that no one buys, you are a business failure.

Now, that’s not to say that good people don’t try and fail. It’s to say that good people try to succeed. Trying to succeed is key. I suspect that libertarians aren’t really concerned with electability. And in politics, electability by definition is success.