Why are motorcycles so much louder than cars?

A muffler is still other way of masking the sound.

I’m pretty sure most bikes these days have fuel injection. I only see carbs on the entry level sub-250cc bikes from the Japanese makers.

This. You have to have an awfully small bike to be able to meet the grams-per-mile emissions regs while using a carburetor these days.

Morover, the injected bikes often employ a 3-way catalytic converter, which requires closed-loop mixture control in order to keep the mixture dithering very closely around stoichiometric. No reason to blip the throttle.

That would be quite a challenge; ISTM most of the noise would be gear/belt-related, with very little coming from the exhaust - and the only reason you’d notice the former is because the latter was so faint. It would be like revving a Honda Accord.

Really? Explain, please.

Seems as though he can be a terrible neighbor if he wanted to be. Which to me seems quite likely.

Any engine can be made loud. Remove the exhaust pipes, start there.

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If you take the pipe off, then it isn’t a stock Gold Wing, is it? I read his boast as he can, somehow, make a normally equipped Gold Wing loud while sitting at a traffic light. I am curious as to how he does that. Or rather, I am curious how he does that without damaging a bike that costs thousands of dollars.

Yeah, I teach those courses. And we don’t modify the mufflers because that would add an unnecessary costs to the bikes. They are pretty quiet.

I should add that whenever a moron in the classroom portion of the MSF course tries to make the argument that “Loud pipes save lives” I just simply shoot down the moron’s argument by stating that if a rider’s pipes are so loud that they would make a difference in alerting other people on the road about the rider’s presence, then the pipes are certainly illegally loud, and that’s not cool.

Before you check out the latest Gold Wing prices, sit down. :smiley:

I used to teach too. The bikes are small. Little putt-putts. And quiet. Our range was in a residential area, until it was rendered unusable. We cerainly wanted to be good neighbors.

And Scumpup (and Gus too), I misread that and missed the part about being stocked. Thanks.

I would like the choice to live in a community without overly-loud motorcycles but certain motorcyclists have deprived me of that choice. Some motorcycles are loud enough to make sensitive children cry and to scare dogs into barking. Why does their choice to have a loud motorcycle override my choice to live in relative tranquility?

You seem to suggest that someone who chooses to be loud is an “ass hat.” I agree with that premise. Are you an ass hat? If not, I assume that you never choose to be loud. If you never choose to be loud, why do you need or want a motorcycle that is capable of being obnoxiously loud? What “choices” are your loud pipes enabling, except the choice for you to be an ass hat and a detriment to your community?

I have no interest in staying away from you, I have no obligation to do so, and I have no ability to do so because I don’t know where you are. If you call it a win when people stay away from you, perhaps the biggest win would be if you took it upon yourself to stay away from everyone. Then you and the rest of us all “win.”

You seem to suggest that you are judged on how you look and how your motorcycle sounds. How you look has zero effect on me and I would strongly defend your right to look or dress however you want. How your motorcycle sounds does affect me and I’m not so amenable to giving you the unfettered freedom to choose.

I said I could make it your worst nightmare. I said nothing about loud.

It appears that you only care about noise and nothing else would bother you.

Yeah, we have been talking about noise but there are many other things that that might5 be more distressing than noise.

Many seem to be silly enough to think that all riding takes place where sensitive and wonderful normal humans live on tree lined streets and the only thing that mars their idealistic life is motorcycles with loud pipes.

They are oh so wrong. IMO

My point is really about the idea that I should not have a choice and should only live the manner that they deem correct. Their is a lot more world out there and since I don’t chose to make big noise just to bother them or because that is the only way to tweak their noses, which it is not, blah blah blah.

Give an example of why you get to remove choices from me that are not immoral or illegal and I that I can’t use myself on those things you do that are irritating to me.

I also do not believe that how people dress does not bother you or you never judge them according to your own statement and I will drag the ‘people of Walmart’ out and you can tell me about how none of them need to be *&&^%$ by anyone as it is not nearly as wrong as making a noise at a level you don’t like.

I can be obnoxious was well as anyone. I don’t chose to do so at every turn but in threads like this, the silly straight lines I am given, I just don’t have the will power to resist when it is this much fun with people who seem to have lead such protected lives.

I’ll quit because this is so easy as to not be fun for long. The lack of knowledge about some bike riders is really too much.

Have a great day and rest assured, you won’t hear me… Bawahahaha

Yeah, well, since the topic was loud motorcycles if you meant that you’d be naked and helicoptering your penis or rubbing feces in your hair or something, you should have just said so. Every time the conversation becomes about you, I regret being part of it.

Topped a million, have they?

That would be the Fort Knox Garage Queen Edition.

$23K-almost 30K.

this thread just reinforces my belief that the worst part of motorcycling is other motorcyclists. I haven’t experienced this level of cliquish bullshit since high school.

Than lobby congress to do some thing about it.

And pass laws to make it not make it so loud.

It already is. That’s why the louder than legal exhaust systems are marked “For off-road use only.”
The manufacturers are off the hook, it’s entirely on the rider.

Since the factual aspects of this question have been answered, and most people are posting opinions, let’s move this to IMHO.

Colibri
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