Why are the media ignoring the protest against the ground zero mosque?

Quite so.

Further, I would say that his sudden claims to (non obvious) African ancestry is a sad attempt to excuse his evident Nazi-esque bigotry (as if ancestral supposed sufferings excuses current extremist bigotry). I do hope that this is either performance art or actionable mental illness, in any case not worth dignifying with rational refuting.

And for the OP: you are a contemptible lying bit of scum. It’s abundantly clear that you would be a Brownshirt (the Brownshits having had their share of gays who also were bigoted lunatics).

Just for the record, I suddenly mentioned my tan skin colour because another one of you jumped to the conclusion about 10 messages back that I was “afraid of brown people”. Which is kind of ridiculous since I am brown myself. Also for the record, many members of the English Defence league are Sikhs, Caribbean blacks or of other non-white origins.

If you will look up your History of Germany, you will note that after the Night of the Long Knives there were no known gays in the Brownshirts. Gay men were put to death in Nazi Germany, just as they are in at least 5 Muslim countries. And yet I am the Nazi in this equation, according to you?

We are all waiting to hear what Valteron is actually doing to further his aims.

Beyond trying to win converts here. Which does not appear to be working.

Yes, because you’re the one who clearly hates and pre-judges a group based solely on a caricature of their religion.

Let’s see what a hypothetical Nazi might say…

Yeah, that doesn’t sound at all like what a Nazi would say. :rolleyes:

Let’s just say what I am doing is 100% legal and involves networking to awake people in the western democracies to the precious heritage of freedom that is being sold out for the sake of appeasement. Looking at the wonderful results Geert Wilders got in the Dutch elections yesterday (more than doubled his seats from 9 to 23), judging from what I hear from correspondents in Europe and America, people are starting to wake up.

I am not trying to convert you, just to state the truth. During all the years Churchill spent warning about the growing menace of Nazi Germany, he was laughed at and called a crank. **I am not for one second daring to compare myself to Churchill. **But I will leave you with one of my favourite Churchill quotes.

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. "

Keep this thread going if you like. I think we have said it all and I am going to bed.

He means he’s going door to door and creeping people out or handing out flyers on some street corner and bothering pedestrians.

Oh, OK, Valteron’s half black, too. My bad. We should totally believe him because he’s got all the bases covered now, AND home plate.

I was wrong. I’m smellin’ a LOT of bullshit here.

But no denial of the “scared shitless” part, I note.

Couldn’t you just hide under the bed or something? It would be just as rational and effective as what you’re doing now, and a hell of a lot more honest.

He’s absolutely a liar, besides being a paranoid, stupid drama queen. If I hadn’t seen somewhere else he’s not in fact 14 years old, I would guess that…

What I said is that one of my ancestors was a fugitive slave who escaped to freedom in Canada in the early 1800s. Probably had more guts and raw courage than you or I or any of the keyboard warriors sitting on our fat asses on SDMB, and I am proud to have such a person in my background. But I did not say half. It is more like one-eighth or one-sixteenth as near as I can tell. Which is why people ask me if I am Lebanese or Italian.

“Half” would mean that one of my parents was pure African, which would be cool, but is not the case. But I guess it is “half” according to the fundamentally illogical and racist “one-drop” rule that even American liberals cling to for some reason. For example, Halle Berry is clearly half-and-half, and the daughter she had with white supermodel Gabriel Aubry in 2008 is obviously 75% white, but my bet is that Americans will consider this child “black”.

I only brought up my skin hue late in this thread because of the ridiculous comment that I was scared of “brown people”. The melanin content of my skin is really irrelevant to this thread except to refute the ridiculous argument that groups like the English Defence League and Stop Islamization of America are made up only of straight white people, as well as the absurd assumption that Islam is a race and that any concern about the effects of this agressive, theocratic warrior ideology on our freedom and democracy constitutes “racism”.

What is the topic here anyway? I thought it was about a 13 story multi million dollar Mosque being built on the site of 9-11. They like to build Mosques on conquered land. New York voted to let them build it.

It’s ridiculous. It’s like being spit on twice. Shame on us and where was the media?

Perciful, we’ve had a few threads about the mosque including this one. Read one and you might learn something.

It’s pretty obvious to anyone reading your posts that you haven’t thought for years.

But you remind me more of Lord Randolph Churchill. Who coined “Ulster Will Fight & Ulster Will Be Right.”

Just before retiring from public life to die from tertiary syphilis.

The more I read this post the stupider it gets. Jesus fuck, Perciful, how do you do it?

It’s not a 13-story mosque. It’s a building that includes a mosque on one of its 13 or 15 floors.

Nevermind the fact that there were multiple plane crashes spread across three states that day, it is NOT ‘on the site’ of anything. It is near the World Trade Center. Not in it or on it. It’s on a street two blocks away. I even posted a fucking map.

“New York” does not have any authority over it. A board of lower Manhattan residents - you know, the people who would actually be affected by the building of a mosque near their homes - approved of the idea. But that was just a thumbs up. The people who want to build the mosque did not need their approval because their plan does not include any zoning changes. Even if the residents didn’t like it, their vote wouldn’t matter. (They’d have other channels to protest.)

Yeah, darn those basketball court building terrorists.

All over the story, as this thread and the other threads about the controversy already proved. CNN did a story on this, for fuck’s sake. Valteron was bitching that the protests were not covered even though he was proved to be completely wrong.

Seriously, America has some major drama queens. And that particular malady has apparently slipped the border as well.

A great tragedy happened on 9/11/2001. 3000+ people died, mostly horribly. We should never forget the date.

But.

It was not America’s Holocaust. It was a tragedy, and a crime, but it was not something that should have left a scar on the American soul. 95% of the United States population had no personal connection to anyone who died. We (collectively) do not own Ground Zero. We do not own lower Manhattan. We do not own New York City. Why do so many non-New Yorkers feel like they have shit-all to say about what happens in that city, just because of 9/11?

That’s the worst part–that every pissant anti-Muslim drama queen has latched onto this and is trying to make it a huge deal.

I suppose the best part is that they were only able to muster a few hundred protestors at the site, tops, and even those got into a nasty split that proved it’s about race (rather than religion) to a fair portion of them

(irrelevant babble about internet whatever and boo hoo American racism snipped)

No one gives a rats ass about the specifics of your background. You could be electric blue like a reject from Avatar and you’d still be a gigantic swollen bigoted taint about this issue.

A) MANY other people who cry out against Islam, even in your own precious protests you’re so concerned about the media ignoring, demonstrably are treating it as a race issue and using the religion issue to camouflage it.

B) If you were really treating it like a religion issue, you’d acknowledge the sectarian differences. But you don’t care, you just want an excuse to persecute people other than yourself. Judging by your pathetic reverse-race-card-playing babble up above, I stand firmly by my analysis of you as looking for someone to lash out at to get some revenge for all the mistreatment poor baby you thinks they have had due to their heritage.

Oh, and for the fucking record, Halle Berry isn’t black or half-black or whatever the fuck. She’s human. Same as everyone else. Except you, you appear to be the product of some bizarre human and used douche mating experiment.

Somebody a few messages back there gave a rat’s ass when they claimed I was lying about my background.
Very mature, well-reasoned argument. Yale, Harvard or Oxford?