When people make reasoned arguments, you ignore them and keep gibbering on, which proves the old truism about people like you being immune to facts. So why would anyone continue to waste their time with Harvard tactics?
Don’t count on it.
points up at the header The BBQ Pit, dumbfuck. You chose this venue, you deal with it. If you want reasoned debate, reopen it in GD and we’ll tear you apart there like we’ve already done, with fewer insults.
I understand if you don’t want to do that, since you’ve shown a cognitive ability lower than my cat (who has demonstrated that she can learn the difference between “murderous intruder” and “polite guest” with some prompting, unlike you) so it might be frustrating for you.
Er…as deserved of insults as I think the OP is, he did open this in GD. It got tossed to the Pit.
He did open the thread in GD. It was moved to the Pit in post 83. So there’s close to two pages of factual arguments and other things. As you can see they’ve had no effect, just like many other Valteron screechings in the past.
Oh, my mistake. Edit my above to “if you want a debate, don’t sling retarded insults and vitriol until tomndebb shows up.”
I love the way people assume that you must be ignoring their arguments if you have not been convinced by them. I have read them all. I find they are mostly apologetics by multiculturalists who want to close their eyes to an agressive, anti-democratic, theocratic and authoritarian ideology that is the principal threat to our western freedoms.
Millions of adherents of this ideology have been and are being admitted to our western democracies and are forming ghettoes in large cities where they continue to insist that their ways must prevail, often when they are in direct violation of our democratic values.
But a long, hard look at immigration from Muslim countries is not something that the PC crowd will stomach. Even Muammar al-Gaddafi has said that Islam will conquer Europe simply by population increase. But we can’t discuss that or we run the risk of being called racist and Nazis, as I have been called here.
And ignored the fact therein. Or if you didn’t ignore them, they failed to penetrate your skull and get to the gooey stuff inside (presumably nougat).
Zerial, PLEASE let me use this as my sig. This IS awesomeness.
I got better things to do than trade insults with people whose PC blindness makes them unable to see what is happening under their noses. Like for example, networking with the fast-growing groups of people who are working to defend our society and its values, using the legal, non-violent and democratic means that our ancestors fought for. You will not see me on any YouTube videos cutting off people’s heads. But the world will know that the west is ready to defend itself.
If this thread is any indication, you really don’t. Trading insults would be a step up from xenophobia.
Well, frankly, that would be best for you. I mean, seriously, look dispassionately at how you deliberately misrepresented your initial premise, and at the hysterical and hostile tone of nearly all your replies.
You are an even more inept advocate for your position than Rand Rover and Starving Artist are for theirs, and that’s saying something.
You want to discuss this without being called a racist or a Nazi? How about this for size, clown: I support 100% of the following positions:
- No implementation of anything like religious-dogmatic law or weakening the separation of church and state should happen. Ever.
- Legal structures that allow people to resolve their disputes with arbitration by whatever criteria must have a provision that allows for a party to the arbitration who considers themselves under duress of any kind to break the arbitration and move into the full legal system.
- There should be funding by the government safety net/welfare structures specifically earmarked for the vicitims of cultural coercion to break their ties and escape those coercions, with Witness Protection levels of police protection and relocation if necessary.
Put it all in the Constitution!
Amazingly, that will stop 100% of what you’re worried about with Muslims–they will NEVER immigrate fast enough to overcome their attrition as immigrants assimilate the democratic ideals of the western nations and gain a supermajority. Amazingly further, it also stops FLDS whackos, Christian Dominionists, irritatingly misogynistic Orthodox Jewish communities, and any other you care to name.
And all that without legislating against Islam, or protesting a goddamn liberal mosque, or in fact being bigoted at all.
Holy shit, it’s the power of actually addressing the real problems instead of being a bigot! Go me!
Permission granted, sir!
Uh, somebody might do some tearing apart, but it won’t be you. You’re a fucking idiot and I’m quite sure your cat is 99% of the IQ points in your house.
Excuse me, but adults are talking here.
Not in the Pit. Pretty sure it’s against the rules to be an adult in here.
I don’t know, I always have more fun when it’s GD, only with ridiculous vitriol. It’s no fun to curse someone out if you’re not also at least making a good-faith effort to win the argument.
You wouldn’t know. You’ve never had one, and the doctors at your asylum never have them around you. Do they know you’re on the computer again? If breathing required thought, you’d be a goner.
Never had one what? When come back, bring sense.
Are you planning on actually bringing anything of substance, by the way, or should I just ignore your pitiful mewlings? Say what you will about Valteron (and I have!), he at least is attempting, in his mediocre and ham-fisted way, to bring an argument.