You haven’t managed an argument that wasn’t retarded this whole thread.
You’re so cute when you bring no substance to a debate.
So far you’re supplied half-assed vitriol and a few corrections to a single post earlier. What’s the matter, siding with Valteron in the bigot brigade but afraid to get called out on it, so you’ve decided to just insult me and hope no one notices that you got nothin’?
What, you gonna come back and call me Hitler now? You’re a joke. Quit trying to impress your pit friends.
“Pearl Harbor.” It’s a proper name.
But please, carry on with your bigoted babbling.
So what happened, did a Muslim piss in your Cheerios this morning, or what?
Ha, ha, ha! Idiot. I’m not Valteron, and I ain’t falling for your silly pit game. You are a moron.
Wake up, sheeple! We must destroy our fundamental freedoms such as free religious expression in order to prevent the Muslims from doing it first!
Coward.
You do have one slight one up on me–up until this post, I was falling for yours. Kindly continue making yourself look stupid, if that’s your desire.
Aw, don’t go away! Come back and bait me with some more Muslim stuff. That’s my favorite after the Hitler stuff and the racist stuff.
Moron.
So for those keeping score, Valteron runs away like a pussy. Levdrakon is snippy. And in a padded room, Perciful diddles her tard button.
I was completely unaware one of those freedoms was “freedom to oppress huge numbers of an arbirtrary group because a few of those people occasionally do something that scares me”. I think that’s a freedom I can do without.
The independent implicit confirmation that I’m not crazy is nice, anyway.
If someone is harming someone else without their consent, then I’m going to get upset about it. Hell, even if the harmed person consents, I still might get upset about it. And if someone is breaking a law, for the most part, I’m going to demand that they be investigated and put through the criminal court system.
Building a mosque or a swimming pool or a cultural center doesn’t fall into any of those categories. If I were to find out that someone in my city was locking up his wife during the day, I’d be the first one demanding that the fire department and police department investigate. Hell, even if the wife completely and voluntarily consented to being left alone locked-up, I’d still be critical of the practice, and because I think it’s a fire hazard, I’d be demanding that the government prohibit such a practice.
If it turns out that the people running this mosque are doing something illegal or immoral, then I’ll be happy to go after them. But since I don’t view building a mosque (or a swimming pool) as being illegal or immoral in and of itself, then I don’t give a crap if they build it.
Just to add: I’m criticizing a practice (which I’ve never heard of as being widespread until this thread) of locking someone up and leaving them alone without a means of escape. If you’re into sex games where you lock your partner in a cage, and you supervise them properly, then I don’t care.
What am I supposed to learn? That 911 was not that bad and building an Islamic Mosque on the site of the tragedy is a great idea? They are rubbing our noses in the horror of what they did? That is not cool with me.
If 911 was not a big deal then why are we at war with them over it?
I know exactly what they do once they build mosques and infiltrate because I read about countries outside the US from non US newspapers. They are blabbing all over the internet about how they are going to own us. They think the US is dumb and so liberal they can use our laws against us.
I can’t wait to see what’s down the road for us once the Muslims take over. Freedom will be a memory and we will be taken over by a culture that lives like they did 500 years in the past.
Just because there is nothing wrong with something doesn’t mean there is nothing wrong with it.
I’m Teflon and your put downs have no effect on me. Go bully someone that cares. 
What does it feel like to have an out of body experience? Can I borrow some of your good shit? You know, the kind that makes you feel like you’re several blocks away from your body?
It’s not on the site of the WTC.
Who’s “they”? The folks building this mosque have nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks or any anti-western ideology.
Hint, we’re not at war with the people building the mosque.
Too stupid to bother responding.
Paranoid rantings from a sad, little person.
You escaped the realm of reason with this one.
Ironically, that’s the one that’s closest to the truth. Of course, the number of muslims would have to be more than double that currently in any western nation, and they’d have to be less liberal than these (although it certainly wouldn’t require fundamentalists.)
In a further irony, the protests against the mosque act as evidence that a Muslim-majority America would gladly force a change of lifestyle upon us, because that’s exactly what the protesters are trying to do. Human nature doesn’t change much between religions.
The only teflon I see is that protecting your brain from genuine information.
The Muslim community has been in lower Manhattan for decades with a mosque dating to at least 1990 and possibly 1983 or older*.
The Cordoba Institue that wishes to construct a community center has been there since 1997.
The founder of the Cordoba Institute has worked with the FBI in the wake of the WTC attack.
Your paranoid fantasies of some great Muslim takeover of the U.S. are exact parallels to the nonsense about “Communist infiltrators” that I grew up hearing from Birchites and other loons.
- Wikipedia gives 1983 as the date when Feisal Abdul Rauf became the imam of the Masjid al-Farah.
Other sites say that Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf founded the mosque in 1990.
However, two sites discussing art works note that those works were installed in the1981 mosque in 1982 and 1983.
A specific timeline is not clear, but the most probable dating would indicate that the artwork was commissioned for a building on Mercer St. in 1979, but that the mosque leased the building around 1981, keeping the commissioned art, and that Imam Rauf became imam in 1990. Later, Masjid al-Farah moved from Mercer St. to Broadway Ave., still in the same neighbornood. The Muslim community has existed within a couple of blocks of the WTC site for twenty years prior to the attacks, (nearly thirty years, now), and the current plans for a cultural center are nothing more than a growing local organization looking for a place to expand without having to leave their long established neighborhood.