Where did you get the time to meet so many millions of people and sound them out in depth on their views? Or are you just farting out your keyboard?
Turkish. As in Turks. Turkic refers to folks like… hmmm Azeris and other lads up in Central Asia that speak Turkic languages.
Most residents of the USSR under Stalin were nice people, I am sure. Most Germans in Nazi Germany as well. I am talking about an ideology, not individual Muslims.
One would guess rather more time than you with your drama queen hysterics and blithe bigotry.
Yeah, the nerve of that ideology, building its community center within walking distance of Ground Zero.
You’re comparing the Islamic world with Stalinism? Good fucking Christ, you really are more bigoted, ignorant and deranged than I had thought. Colour me stunned.
Comparing a diverse religion with either of the secular totalitarian regimes of 20th century Europe is deranged.
It’s a bad break for them if he has.
And the fight against ignorance goes on.
The Jewish community in Iberia assisted in the Moorish invasion - the time under the Cordoba Caliphate is commonly called the “Golden Age” of Jewish culture in Spain.
Special tax? The Jews under Catholic rule in Spain would have counted themselves lucky if they’d gotten away with a special tax.
Well, after 1492 there weren’t any Jews in Spain because they were all expelled shortly after the surrender of Granada to Ferdinand and Isabella.
Turkish. Wikipedia entry on the Bulgarian Turks.
Anyway, that was a really awesome rebuttal, Valteron. You continue to look like a crazy person, jsyk.
We need to get back to the Muslims naming their little clubhouse “Cordoba House”. Cordoba makes humidors. Mosques hold Muslims. Humidors hold Tobacco. Tobacco kills people.
For the love of Ray J, people, do I have to draw you a map?
Go ahead, chuckles, and name as many convicted American-born Muslim terrorists as you can.
I’ll wait. If you can come up with even so many as 20 (compared to the anywhere from 2.5 to 7 million Muslims estimated to be current US Citizens) , I’ll revise my statement.
Your statement applies nicely to yourself, by the way. Dumbass. Or is this “Valteron is the only person allowed to generalize ever” day and I missed the memo?
But if they start hogging parking spots, then there’s going to be a problem. 
Or liquidated via very entertaining bits of torture. No one (except Jews and Muslims) expects the Spanish Inquisition.
That must have been taxing.
What in the world would be in any way “tasteless” about a mosque built by a “saintly, moderate, America-loving, non-homophobic, non-sexist, reasonable, peace-loving, pro-freedom, non-violent group of Muslims”?
But as you yourself just admitted, a “saintly, moderate, America-loving, non-homophobic, non-sexist, reasonable, peace-loving, pro-freedom, non-violent group of Muslims” is NOT promoting the ideology you find objectionable. So why are you devoting a whole thread to hating on them?
Hamid Hayat
John Walker Lindh
Ali al-Tamimi
Bryant Neal Vinas
Jose Padilla
Jeff Fort
Ahmed Omar Abu Ali
Hassan Abu-Jihaad
Faysal Galab
Mukhtar al-Bakri
Yaseinn Taher
Shafal Mosed
Yahya Goba
Sahim Alwan
Rafiq Abdus Sabir
Tarik Shah
Christopher Paul
Seifullah Chapman
Donald Surratt
Randall Todd Royer
There are 20.
Technically, Donald Surratt was not convicted on any terrorism charges, but rather for firearms violations. Basically, he was involved with a group of paintball players, some of whom used the games as training and recruitment for a Kashmiri militant network, but there seems to be no proof that Surratt himself had terrorist aspirations.
Clearly I should have set the bar higher.
In all seriousness, though, you induced me to do a bit more research. As far as I can tell, the number of Muslims living in the US (regardless of citizenship) who have been convicted of terrorist actions in the last several decades is around 90-100. That means, roughly, that there’s a higher bound of somewhere between 0.0014% and 0.0036% (depending on whether you use the low or high numbers of estimated Muslims living in the US) on the percentage of US Muslims who are convicted terrorists. This line of research is also tangential to my initial question, in a way, since it (for example) counts resident aliens and not just US citizens. Does anyone have any accurate data on this?
Regardless, it’s clear that SOME US Citizen Muslims perpetrate terrorist attacks. It’s also clear that the number of such who do so is vanishingly small relative to their total population.
I’d be interested in numbers of domestic-origin terror plots started by Muslims as opposed to not by Muslims. I have the idea that, historically speaking and based on some preliminary research, that technically Puerto Rican separatists have perpetrated more attacks.
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I spot-checked a few names for this kind of thing (and also Guantanamo detentions with no trial, etc) but I missed this. My insistence on a strict “conviction” standard might affect this a bit.
Ok, so we can replace Chapman with Hammad Abdur-Raheem, another member of the group, who was convicted of providing material support?